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maegul, to fediverse in Ideas to build a federated StackExchange alternative
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@weirdwriter @ajsadauskas @lemmyreader

Yes, forum platforms too (incl of course).

I do get the (very vague) impression discourse is focusing on integrating well with masto to a good extent and so might not integrate too well with the other Reddit/forum platforms. If true, that might be a good enough reason to start with another base. OTOH, it’s a familiar platform to many devs so adapting it for stackoverflow like use could go well right?

maegul, to fediverse in Ideas to build a federated StackExchange alternative
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@ajsadauskas @lemmyreader

Yep! It seems a good Threadiverse ecosystem could be on its way with lemmy etc, nodebb and discourse. Hooking a stack overflow alternative into that could make a lot of sense of kick starting it.

Though at some point UI differences could prove problematic(?)

maegul, to fediverse in Well looks like a Lemmy comment is making the rounds on Mastodon!
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@masimatutu

Yea. Generally a good demonstration of how the promise of the fediverse isn’t really there yet.

Lemmy does groups and mastodon does users with neither really understanding the other.

I think there’s more scope for lemmy to cover the user side of social media than mastodon the groups side. Kbin is an example of a continuing effort to do that.

If some keen devs got involved, I’d suspect lemmy could add some good user based functionality.The core devs have recognised it’d be good.

maegul, to fediverse in Well looks like a Lemmy comment is making the rounds on Mastodon!
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@Bebo @masimatutu

Friendica definitely is one of the underrated fediverse platforms.

Many bounce off of it because it seems a bit slow and its UI is dated. But in terms of the general ideas about what the fediverse can be and the functionality it’s implemented, it’s very interesting and it would be awesome for it to seem more love.

maegul, to lemmy in How to Post from mastodon?
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@PorkButtsNTaters666 @maegul

You should be able to, yes, just as I am here.

Copy the link to the lemmy post/comment, and search for it in the mastodon interface. It should get fetched and come up. Then you can just reply (and like) as you normally would.

Beyond that you can follow lemmy communities and users normally. Following communities might flood your timeline as comments as well as posts will go in there.

maegul, to test in Another hashtag experiment #mytesthashtag
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@maegul

Hmmm ... so lemmy-mastodon interop is worse than I thought.

Replying to posts from lemmy doesn't seem to go back to the originating community. For that to work, the post has to originate from mastodon.

And mastodon doesn't seem to recognise hashtags in lemmy posts.

I keep wondering if the fediverse even exists.

maegul, to main in Blåhaj Lemmy hacked
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@supakaity

Fittingly, given that the hack seemed to be through the custom emoji interface (?), this thread has some wonderful emoji action!!

maegul, to lemmy in Thoughts on federating lemmy and bookwyrm
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@maegul test

maegul, to fediverse in Mastodon <> Lemmy Interoperability
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@boris @grahamsz

I feel like you're touching on the general idea that molding each and every platform to be everything to everyone isn't (necessarily) a good idea ...

Rather, some layer on top of the platforms that allows integrating them in which ever way suits you, would be better.

Perhaps some shared-account verification feature would be necessary so that all your accounts know and display that they belong to the same person.

Otherwise, I think uni-clients and consistent APIs are needed

maegul, to fediverse in Somebody gave me this link earlier as to why they don't like the Fediverse, from the perspective of an user
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@modulus @jherazob yes wow.

I went there and started an account. Didn’t see the appeal at all. Not sure if ever pay for that, especially compared to what’s adorning over here on the fediverse. Hopefully I’m missing something.

Otherwise, it’s the magic of the protocol: allows FOSS software to scale to large social media levels.

maegul, to fediverse in Calckey.social down?
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@hellerphant not criticising you here at all. It’s just that there is an insidiousness there when the protocol doesn’t guarantee things.

maegul, to fediverse in Calckey.social down?
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@hellerphant

Really vital point you make there. It illustrates the ways in which a dominant platform shapes the ecosystem to be more like it, especially when the ecosystem is one of interconnectedness.

Calckey offers full post migration from mastodon to calckey. Great. But mastodon doesn’t offer the reverse. Ok, don’t use mastodon, that’s shit. But everyone is already using mastodon and have their posts there. Ok, stay on mastodon then, safer!

maegul, to fediverse in Calckey.social down?
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@matthieu_xyz @hellerphant

Yea. They've got plans to rebrand and alter the flagship instance. Perhaps they'll change tack as you suggest. After this, there may be a bit of a push to do so from users.

maegul, to fediverse in Calckey.social down?
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@hellerphant

There's good reason to believe it's just been a bumpy period for the platform though, and atomicpoet seems pretty dedicated, announcing that he's bringing in more help from his other project ... so real good chance that things will stabilise.

If not, and I've thought this before, we might look back in 5-10 years and consider gargron kinda the Linus Torvalds of the fediverse. While other platforms will have come and gone, he'll have just been there for years, getting shit done.

maegul, to fediverse in Calckey.social down?
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@hellerphant
Yea ... it's pretty easy get upset and negative about these things in the moment, especially if things get cleaned up.

But yea, calckey.social was always a kinda beta thing, which was perfectly fine for a young/experimental platform.

But this past week or two has really cemented its beta status and put a wet blanket on any excitement and good-will the platform had.

I kept my mastodon main anyway, but its things like this kinda reveal why mastodon is dominant. Platforms be tricky

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