(May 23, 2024 / JNS) - Germany will detain Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if the International Criminal Court issues an arrest warrant against him, a German government spokesman said Wednesday....
This is kinda huge. Germany is one of Israel’s most ardent supporters. It’s really great to see such a clear and concise answer that confirms a commitment to international rule of law over international politics.
Edit: I hope I did not speak too soon, as this seems like relatively positive news. However I am having a hard time finding the original Politico source that this link refers to. I am also unaware of this source’s integrity. Does anybody else have another source; or the original Politico source that is referred to in this article?
Second edit: apparently this is coming from the Twitter/xitter of politico. I don’t have one of those, so I can’t personally verify the veracity of this statement, but it does seem as if Politico (Peter Wilke (@peterjwilke)) reported this. [I put the name and handle in here for others who may be interested in digging a bit more than me before this is more widely reported]
I think it’s important to consider just how… ickily inviolable most (if not all) of the right wing feels about the second amendment. I don’t think this line of logic would carry much weight with that crowd.
But I agree with what you’re saying. We need much more stringent controls on who is eligible for office.
First: it’s not my logic. It’s how this part of international law works. The International Criminal Court wasn’t created until 1998, and the statute that governs it only officially came into power in 2002. Not all countries have signed, and some (including the US) have withdrawn from it. This means that technically the ICC doesn’t have any jurisdiction over things that happen within its territory.
The US codified it into a domestic law because it doesn’t believe its should be beholden to any law higher than its domestic ones, and the United States often does shady things in countries where the ICC does have jurisdiction, making it a risk that US citizens (and leaders) can be arrested for crimes that occur there. So the US Congress wrote domestic policy stating that it reserved the right to invade if its citizens were held for trial.
And Bibi didn’t join the US military. But the US has shown it’s willing to support his administration through an awful lot of shit, and the US doesn’t have any ambiguity about how it regards the ICC.
Finally, are you referring to the Nuremberg trials? Nazis weren’t tried in The Hague court we are discussing, and I’m not sure any nazi trials happened there at all.
Edit: I don’t understand the downvotes. This is literally just how the International Criminal Court works.
Yes, the origin of one of the international courts in The Hague, specifically the one that prosecutes individuals, the International Criminal Court, comes from the Nuremberg Trials. I never disputed that lineage. Those nazi trials happened in Nuremberg, not The Hague, and before the ICC existed.
This isn’t bitching so much as a curiosity. Here in Lemmy.ml, would it be considered abusive for an admin to actively participate in a discussion, then get upset and delete the same comments they themselves have been replying to?...
I’m engaging with you in good faith right now and you seem to be literally incapable of chilling the fuck out.
Just ease your tone a little bit, dude. Not everybody who disagrees with you is a fascist.
This is a really good example of why you feel persecuted in spaces that are not homogeneous: as soon as you are met with anything aside from agreement you leap to some pretty crazy assumptions about people you’re talking to on the internet. You don’t even allow people to respond before you assume so many things about them and shut the conversation down.
What? You reported me. I tried to allow us to continue engaging with one another to the mod, or insisted on equal moderation. When that wasn’t forthcoming, I responded in-kind.
I was perfectly happy to keep calling you stupid every time you said something stupid, but the mods didn’t like that, and I don’t appreciate unequal moderation.
Did you expect me to stand by and watch you be an asshole after you reported my comments for being an asshole to you? Why would I silence myself like that?
I don’t mind you reporting me. I don’t like it when you use the report button as a weapon to silence dissent, though. Which is what you did.
I haven’t seen you respond to a single thing in good faith.
And I can think you’re insufferable while also hoping you say something that isn’t insulting, and work to better understanding you, and work to convey my own point.
I like political discourse. I also like being an asshole to assholes. We agree on more than you think we do.
I promise, it’s ok to ease your tone and acknowledge your own missteps. Nobody on the internet will think less of you.
I complained when moderation seemed to target me, not you. It’s not a double standard to expect fair moderation.
And I don’t mind either of us being assholes. As I said: sometimes having views and opinions vehemently challenged is fine, and sometimes it’s enlightening how little pushback some assholes can take.
I did take it up with the mod. You have used a quote from the very conversation I had with the moderator, here, during this very exchange. I explicitly complained, without reporting your comments, about unequal moderation. The mod told me to report the comments I found insulting, so I eventually did.
As I said: you were the first one to bring the moderation team into it at all. I was happy to keep calling you stupid when you said stupid shit.
I have people disagree with me all the time. I don’t mind, usually, as long as they are somewhat decent in their communication and allow for debate. Again: I didn’t involve the mod team, you did.
It would be in the mod log at worldnews, about four weeks ago. Since I couldn’t participate there I blocked the sub (before understood how lemmy worked), so I unfortunately cannot screenshot the exact comments. But it shouldn’t take a lot of effort if you’re actually interested.
sigh ok. I’ll keep talking to you. But my responses will get progressively more disconnected from the thread. As I said: technical difficulties.
This is the first time in my life I’ve been the recipient of this quote. Where have I shown antisemitism? Or even a bias towards antisemitism?
What now? What would make it so that you actually believed I was arguing in good faith, and how can I press upon you the utility of polite discourse, at least most of the time?
President Volodymyr Zelensky believes that Ukraine’s partners “are afraid of Russia losing the war” and would like Kyiv “to win in such a way that Russia does not lose,” Zelensky said in a meeting with journalists attended by the Kyiv Independent....
Sure. But he’s done an awful lot swinging his nuclear dick already.
But that is true. It would obviously be perceived by Russia as a massive escalation for any other country to send troops into Ukraine. I’m just making the point that just because a NATO member is involved doesn’t necessarily mean all NATO members would be involved, even if they suffered casualties.
Germany: We will execute ICC warrant against Netanyahu (www.jns.org)
(May 23, 2024 / JNS) - Germany will detain Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if the International Criminal Court issues an arrest warrant against him, a German government spokesman said Wednesday....
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Lemmy.Ml, admins, and conflicts of interest
This isn’t bitching so much as a curiosity. Here in Lemmy.ml, would it be considered abusive for an admin to actively participate in a discussion, then get upset and delete the same comments they themselves have been replying to?...
Zelensky: 'Our partners fear that Russia will lose this war' (kyivindependent.com)
President Volodymyr Zelensky believes that Ukraine’s partners “are afraid of Russia losing the war” and would like Kyiv “to win in such a way that Russia does not lose,” Zelensky said in a meeting with journalists attended by the Kyiv Independent....