ondoyant

ondoyant, 11 months ago

I think I'm just not that worried about making it easy for "most people" right now. The nature of open source projects means that enthusiastic users can and do contribute to infrastructure, and as more people come along, more people will start working on making things better. There's a reason reddit decided to fuck over third party API calls, and its because open source projects became better than their own shit, and they apparently think that they're losing potential money because of it. Projects like Apollo would not be getting cut off if they weren't seen as a threat to reddit's business model. If lemmy survives, the breadth and depth of community driven infrastructure will outpace reddit eventually. If it doesn't, well... then somebody will try something else. No biggie. Cool shit takes time to build.

ondoyant, 11 months ago

I don't think we need to consider optics like that. If all we talk about is what we want to, the people who want to talk about that will stick around, and the people who don't won't. I doubt it'll stick around for too long though.

ondoyant, 11 months ago

I think that structures that permit people and communities to do literally whatever they want is how lemmy can thrive. The people in beehaw (myself included) are on the whole perfectly chill with the defederation, and the specific reasons and conditions for that defederation. The admins have been open about the fact that they want more moderation tools for our community before refederating with those instances, it isn't a permanent state of affairs. I like beehaw. Its chill. Maybe other people wouldn't like that, but then maybe just don't host your account there? There are tons of other places to be. This isn't reddit, if you aren't inside beehaw, its management doesn't affect you.

Except for the fact that defederating is bidirectional at the moment. It would be nice if the platform's defederation and the user's defederation were less tied together, but as far as I can tell, the beehaw admins only defederated because there wasn't a compromise between "do nothing" and "ban everything" available to them.

ondoyant, 11 months ago

Sure! Fuck all war criminals, including the ones you seem to like defending. Listen, maybe people defederated lemmygrad because they "hate communists", or maybe they fully understand their position, and find it objectionable on its own merits. I would, unambiguously, never say I liked a war criminal. If I found out somebody was a war criminal, I would stop liking them. I don't want to be around people who like war criminals, either. To me, that either means they don't know about the war crimes, or they're kinda okay with the war crimes, and either option is bad.

ondoyant, 11 months ago

Beehaw has been pretty darn open about exactly why and under what circumstances they defederated. Try to be a little more charitable here. They're in open communication with the mods of both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works as of now, and are trying to start development on more nuanced moderation tools. As far as I know, the intent is to refederate once things get figured out.