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quat,

break a lot of backwards compatibility or radically change the current way of doing things

Plan 9. We can still have textual interfaces without emulating the ancient use of teletypewriters.

quat, (edited )

The things I’ve read (admittedly mostly from the OpenBSD camp) from BSD devs, they seem to not worry about corporations building from their source that much, instead they actively try to get rid of GPL code because it isn’t permissive enough for their standards.

Theo wrote “GPL fans said the great problem we would face is that companies would take our BSD code, modify it, and not give back. Nope—the great problem we face is that people would wrap the GPL around our code, and lock us out in the same way that these supposed companies would lock us out. Just like the Linux community, we have many companies giving us code back, all the time.

But once the code is GPL’d, we cannot get it back.”

quat,

People use ed because they want an editor. They don’t want an emacsitor or vimitor. Those aren’t even words.

quat,

If you are planning on adding things, my humble suggestion would be how to write a really good bug report, maybe going through how to research what went wrong to narrow down the problem, looking for already filed bug reports, using diff and patch if you have a proposed solution, using reportbug, etc.

quat,

The wave of the reddit protests is over, now lemmy must grow on its own merits rather than being “not reddit”.

quat,

There’s an old saying: “Linux users use Linux because they hate Windows. BSD users use BSD because they love Unix.” Obviously this is not true for every individual user, but I think it describes a trend or pattern.

quat,

Have you thought about the implications and consequences if we start banning non-violent expressions of opinions because someone else might find it disrespectful?

quat,

I think it’s a valid concern in this case.

quat,

If you can understand written english well, there’s translation/internationalization that isn’t too scary. What is your native language?

quat,

While I do agree that the website is bad, nowadays the main iso includes non-free firmware, and it’s the same installer for all DEs.

quat,

As an experiment you could go to debian.org and see if you find the download link.

quat,

You’re describing that you want something that isn’t the standard installer, with the ability to do offline installs. A new user with no clue about anything would probably just use the top link and run the graphic installer, ending up with the same system as if he/she had downloaded the dvd version. Is your criticism that internet is a requirement for the standard installer?

quat,

I see, so then there are two options: 1) Make the full offline installer the default, or 2) put all options side by side and explain the difference.

The first option isn’t good because any default will not fit everyone, there will always be someone looking for what isn’t the default. The second option would just be confusing for the person who knows nothing about computers. “I have to read a wall of text to decide what to download? This is too much!”

I mean, there’s no way to win here. Is there any OS avaliable that can have one installer that fits exactly everyone, or a way to have a list to choose from if the user knows nothing about the choices?

quat,

Would a normie Windows user know how to install Windows on a computer without OS? Of course, this hypothetical user doesn’t have to, because he/she probably bought a computer with Windows pre-installed. Is there any OS in the world that is easy to install if you don’t know what an iso file is? Which measurement are we using when the claim is that Debian is difficult to install? What is an easy install?

quat,

I am not trying to gatekeep. It could be that I’m blind to why debian is hard to install, I think it’s about the same as ubuntu or mint or fedora etc. Which means I’m not the right person to improve this area. I do want to lower the thresholds, and currently I’m helping out with that in other areas. This discussion started with the claim that it was hard to find the iso, which I disagree with, and now I’m not sure what we’re disagreeing about.

quat,

There is something “clunky” about the website, but to be fair, the first page has a big button to download the installer, which leads to a page where the first link is the version most people want, the second link leads to instructions how to get it onto a usb (or cd/dvd) for linux/windows/mac, and clearly visible a link to all the other versions of the installer that people might want, with explanations what they are for.
For me it’s hard to put my finger on why the website is bad, all the information is there. I do agree that it just somehow feels bad, but I don’t understand why.

Red Hat linux piracy?

I have a fedora but I’m curious about Red Hat Enterprise Linux because they say fedora is a community version of red hat. I pirated Windows in years and it’s really easy but is there any way to crack RHEL? I know it’s not magical and I can use a free distro and have anything I need but for the sake of curiosity I need to...

quat,

“Hello, support? How do I get through the Gnomish Mines in Nethack?”

I just started using Linux... any great tips?

I just installed Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS (Cinnamon) on an empty laptop a couple days ago and have been experimenting a lot. I’m coming from being a Windows user since I was just a little kid playing old DOS games on my grandpa’s Win-98 PC back in around 2000. My daily driver is currently running Windows 10 but I am pretty adamant...

quat,

People will say “use this editor” or “use that window manager”, but honestly it’s just personal preference. There’s no award for using ed to edit files, and almost anything you can do with one distro you can do with any other distro. You might get an urge to distrohop and compile the kernel, and that’s fine, but imho far more useful is to learn how pipes work and what you can do with regular expressions. A tutorial for bash is always useful.

quat,

Have you tried setting the +tlig opentype feature in your font definitions?

quat,

Being able to run your own instance with any policies you want is a strength of lemmy.

quat,

Imho, the argument doesn’t translate to countries. In Iran, the government has a monopoly on governing, and most people can’t just hop over to another country with different laws. In effect, you can be stuck with a system you don’t like.

In the digital world, and Lemmy in particular, the same is not true. If you have a computer, you can “start a new country” with your own rules. No one is forced to join, and you can’t force anyone else to do anything. As a whole, Lemmy allows all opinions. The problem is central power, and free federated software is a solution.

quat,

I agree with that. Big players have too much power. In theory there’s nothing that stops us from self-hosting e-mail, but in practice today it takes a lot to make it work and be accepted by the big players. I think free speech is desirable and wish that it was the norm. The best we can do is to use services that align with that ideal, and make sure that the system itself is built so that it is open for anyone to be in control over who they interact with. Even if that means someone choosing to not interact with certain others. As long as it’s easy to use an alternative when there are restrictions.

quat,

I recently found out that a person I remember from my childhood in a small village in Småland Sweden became a writer. He writes horror stories about small villages in Småland. So now I’m reading his book “Fyra minuter”, by Johan Ring. I remember as a young teenager he was in a hard rock band and made a song called “Killed by death.”

quat,

This reminds me of a talk by Rob Pike that was made 23 years ago: doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utah2000/utah2000.html

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