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Varen

@Varen@kbin.social
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got told to crosspost over here to reach more people:

https://kbin.social/m/linuxquestions/p/4631784

I don't know if and how crossposting functions in kbin/lemmy, so hopefully it'll work that way

Varen,
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yeah ... as you can see in one of my other comments, I already joined the asus-linux discord and asked the "same" question (really, nearly with the exact same words...) and got , unfortunately, absolutely no reaction to it (besides on comment about "you need to disable the nouveau driver")...

Varen,
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Don‘t get me wrong, I‘m not complaining at all, in contrary, I am enormous grateful for any help I get.
I posted alread in reddit as well - subreddits r/Nobara, r/linux4noobs and r/linuxquestions
Asus-Linux has a thready-like area in their discord „general-issues“, where I made the thread…

At first it is to learn how everything behaves, test my use-cases to see, if linux could become an all-dayer for me - that would be the main goal - until then the dual-boot to have a fallback option.

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appreciate it, thank you

Varen,
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yeah, already played around with VirtualBox and WSL, but there are use-cases (e.g. in gaming) where just an emulation can't really show what's possible and what not, that's why I would love to have the dualboot, so I can reliably test everything without any excuses like "runs probably bad because of emulation"

Varen,
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took the video
https://youtu.be/855QTzZlhWk
as you can see, absolutely nothing happens or shows up. (still uploading rn, should be available shortly)

Varen,
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yeah, that's the reason I am so desperate ... I understand, so maybe about time to look around for a new mobo?
anyways, I wanted to thank you very much for your time and effort in figuring out and trying to help me, I really do appreciate it very much!

Varen,
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No worries, at least you tried and I‘m grateful for it.

One last thing: so you would also go for mobo replacement? In my opinion its uefi/bios and a new mobo should help, but I like having more opinions…

Thank you again for trying

Varen,
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Wow thank you so much for keeping up on it!

I tried the earlyprintk options, but unfortunately none of them did work. Neither did the orher acpi options show up something, I do still have the exact same behaviour :(

I will work through the troubleshoot link you pasted, thank you as well for that.

Appreciate your help, I guess I‘ll start thinking about replacing the mobo

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Yeah I already got one in mind and looked it up on linux-hardware.org - any other option I‘d have to make sure the next one is alright? (Besides socket and compatibility with my other hw)

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Alright, no worries! You invested so much time and effort trying to help me out, I can‘t thank you enough for that, really really appreciate it much!

Varen,
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Oh I absolutely can relate haha
Maybe one day I‘ll be here asking dumb questions again, watch out 😁

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got some news. I don't think, that it might change something, but who knows.
I added in grub the option "insmod progress" (which I found by googling somewhere). It should show, if kernel and initrd do load or not and now I can see, that the vmlinuz and initrd are loading to 100% and after that it hangs. So it looks like the kernel loads but then stucks.
As said before, I don't think that this might change something in regards to further tests with my actual mobo, but I didn't want to left that out ...

Varen,
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ok took me 3 days to test, apologies :D
but unfortunately, no, doesn't work. Even the "old" iso stucks at the exact same position with the exact same behavior :(

Varen,
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Don‘t want to dig up old posts, but wanted to update you since you took quite some time trying to help - it works now! I replaced the MoBo and everything works no smoothly on the new MoBo!

Thanks again so so much for the very appreciated help!

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Ok I nearly lost hope, since not being able to figure it out.

PLEASE. SEND. HELP.

_ First: this might gonna get a long one, but I‘m desperately looking for help!
Second: I‘m a total newb on Linux, so I have really limited Linux know-how.

Specs:
Asus ROG Strix G15DS-R7700X088W
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
2x 1TB SSDs; 1x M2 NVME with W11 running, 1x SATA

Goal:
Running Dual Boot with W11 on the first, M2 SSD (already running fine) and Linux (Nobara preferred) on the second, SATA SSD

Distros I tried:
Nobara 39
Fedora 39
Fedora 38
Ubuntu 22.04
Pop!_OS

Problem I run into:
I can‘t boot even from the LiveUSB without the „acpi=off“ option. If I do, I get just a black Screen (with Backlight still on) or, if I get into the Grub options first, there‘s only „booting command list“ visible but nothing else happens (even with „quiet“ disabled, no info on the Screen at all).
One thing I noticed, since my Keyboard, Mouse and Mousemat (Razerfly) have lighting, when I try to boot without the acpi=off, they go dark. And stay dark. With acpi=off the keyboard alone goes dark but then lights up again after 2-3 seconds.
If I run it with acpi=off, I can boot and install, but I then have to boot every time with acpi=off. This leads to the graphics driver not being recognized by the OS and running always in 1024x768 „software rendering“ resolution (even with proper drivers installed and enabled and nouveau on blacklist). So just let „acpi=off“ enabled isn‘t an option.

I did, after researching for several hours, try with various other options (nomodeset, acpi=ht, pci=biosirq, noapic, nolapic, and so on, tried a ton of those) but nothing did the trick - always black screen of death without acpi=off.

I did update my BIOS to the latest Version (306), did try every possibilty of options enabled/disabled (Fast Boot, Secure Boot, IOMMU, acpi settings in BIOS, secondary on-board Graphics,…) with no change.

Since I ran out of options (in relation to my google and reddit search skills), knowledge (total newb on Linux) and possibility to ask friends (that know more about linux than me), I‘m desperate enough to ask for help.

You are my last hope, before giving up on Linux with my PC.

If someone has an idea I could try or even a solution, I‘d be endlessly thankful!

If I missed some info or something is needed, don‘t hesitate to as for specific details._

Varen,
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Thanks for taking the time to comment - yes, did test that already. I even tried (responding to an answer on one of my reddit posts) by effectively removing the PCIE Nvidia card and tried to boot like that without any success unfortunately.

Varen,
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@Guenther_Amanita
Thanks for your opinion and and assessment - what d‘you think would make sense to replace? MoBo, graphics,…?

Varen,
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@onlinepersona

Unfortunately no output at all. Only when changing parameters in grub and booting from there with F10/CTRL+X I get a line saying „booting a command line“ on which it stays forever without anything happening.
Nothing else I tried as parameter helped up until now, but will work through the links you provided, thank you.

Varen,
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Thank you.

The only way I got it working was again with acpi=off and with the 3 I just land on the CLI?

Varen,
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@Guenther_Amanita
I don‘t know about the perfectly fine piece of hardware if it‘s making me so much trouble 🤣 but thank you for your opinion on this, appreciate it

Varen,
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@Guenther_Amanita

One last question, what would you suggest for looking up which hardware (mobo in general) would play nice (or at least at all) with linux? Is linux-hardware.org the way to go?

Varen,
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Well the startup kernel messages. Looking for something specific?

Varen,
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Sure. The whole output or something like dmesg -T --level=emerg,alert,crit,err,warn ?

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there you go:
https://pastebin.com/kNFqya2L

taken with acpi=off boot.
Since without acpi=off it's not possible to boot and there is absolutely no output after grub (as if the kernel wouldn't load at all) there simply nothing to show ...

Varen,
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Yep, saw this entries already and tried with it. To no change unfortunately.
Did some research and also found the suggest to try with
acpi=noirq noapic
but also tried to no change.

Regarding the BIOS options, I did also check for these options, bug they simply aren‘t there 🤷🏻‍♂️ but will look again after those. Got told that this error might be due to the acpi=off thingy

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Alright, no worries! Appreciate you trying to help, thank you

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