abbiistabbii,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If you think Linux users I’m general are like this, wait until you encounter Arch Linux users.

KISSmyOS,

In our defense, Arch is the best OS out there by far, if you aren’t too dumb to install it.
(I use Arch, by the way.)

nicoweio,

With NixOS on the rise, I’m not sure how much longer this remains the case. Haven’t tried it yet, though.

Sanyanov, (edited )

I can install Arch blindfolded without archinstall, but I don’t think it is the superior option.

It is either unstable or maintenance-heavy, depending on how you treat it, compared to other distributions.

It is bleeding-edge though, and pretty memory-effective and speedy.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

I mostly use windows and arch, but i think debian is pretty based

liforra,
@liforra@endlesstalk.org avatar

Arch is a great os, great wiki, great packages. But it expects the user to do everything themselves. Which is something that not everyone wants to do, which is fair

I use arch btw (im new to it lol)

MystikIncarnate,

Linux users… The vegans of IT.

Mint, (edited )

So majority keep it to themselves, and those who aren’t vegans bother them about being vegan?

Schmeckinger,

But a VERY loud minority then.

KISSmyOS,

so… constantly and unprovoked forced to defend their choice of OS and refute bullshit myths by Windows users?

ComradeKhoumrag,
@ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

And just like the real world, as annoying as vegans are, they ultimately are ideologically right

drathvedro,

Eh… both are questionable. Morally superior, maybe, but definitely not right.

Kase,

Could you explain the difference?

drathvedro,

Both aren’t really sustainable. Open source doesn’t pay live-able wages without some kind of proprietary component and going full vegan is very detrimental to the health and sometimes even the cause itself. I’m not a dictionary and english isn’t my first language, but in my understanding, the “right” thing should at least be viable, without taking compromises from the other side.

To clarify, I’m not saying that open-source and veganism are bad or we shouldn’t aim towards those. What I’m saying is that, while half-opensource like redhat and half-veganism (on supplements) is viable, so is all-meat diet and all-proprietary software, but not going full RMS opensource-only and getting rid of all animal-based products without causing even more damage to the ecosystem with the alternatives. Maybe we’re missing some puzzle pieces (like properly implemented communism) or the end-goal is a bit off, or, maybe, going half-way is actually the “right” thing all along.

commie,

as annoying as vegans are, they ultimately are ideologically right

about what?

ComradeKhoumrag,
@ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

The meat industry overall is bad for everyone, the amount of food it requires to feed the meat we eat is extremely wasteful. From an economic standpoint, meat is “bad”, let alone the lobbying done by the meat industry.

Eating meat increases the chances of heart disease. Some protein is good, but we eat way too much. From a public health standpoint, meat is “bad”

In general, it’s good to lessen harm. Factory slaughtering living things that grew up in what’s effectively a prison is not lessening harm.

But, I do like the taste of meat unfortunately. Ill splurge on lab grown meat when it becomes available, but even though I’m a hypocrite for liking the taste of meat doesn’t mean vegans are wrong because they’re annoying to deal with

commie,

the amount of food it requires to feed the meat we eat is extremely wasteful

a lot of what we give livestock are parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat. that’s the opposite of wasteful.

max,

Parts of plans that were specifically grown for livestock that we won’t eat, that is. At least a big part.

commie,

i’m talking about waste product from our crops, like cottonseed from the textile industry or soymeal leftover from making soybean oil or silage.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

And he’s talking about crops specifically grown for livestock. Of which there is quite a lot. Hell, even pets that aren’t considered live-stock outright, like Horses, consume tremendous amounts of feed that isn’t just by-products.

commie,

And he’s talking about crops specifically grown for livestock.

what i said was true. what they said wasn’t nuance, it was stated as a contradiction. your framing of it as nuance is a red herring.

commie,

Factory slaughtering living things that grew up in what’s effectively a prison is not lessening harm.

you can’t know that. consequentialist ethics run into this all the time: you can’t actually know what the future holds, and it may be that without the current agricultural system, even more harm would have been done.

heimchen,

I see your argument that thinking how a pig in a meat factory feels is just speculation, but there is a point where we have to think about the future and speculate what could be and how possible it is. If we have better options now, and, maybe not as a single human, but collectively can act to stop this harm with a great possibility, I think it’s worth it to speculate. I don’t no where you draw this line, but it is beyond mine, so I am willing to speculate that this is the better way.

commie,

thinking how a pig in a meat factory feels is just speculation

that’s not what i’m saying here. i’m saying that they could be experiencing an immense amount of suffering, but we can’t know if that is saving the world from an even greater suffering sometime in the future.

heimchen,

And I would say that I am ready to speculate, that stopping this suffering does not conclude to more.

commie,

you can’t really know, though. the model you presented for right behavior precludes you from ever knowing if you’re doing the right thing.

fluxion,

“Bro but OSX has Final Cut Pro and is the end all be all of music production!”

018118055,

I’ve used Linux since 1996 and don’t recommend it to anyone. They might want help with something.

cum_hoc,

This is what I call wisdom right here 👆

018118055,

The best lessons are the hardest

joyjoy,

Why would someone recommend an OS that everyone already uses?

BeardedGingerWonder,

Everyone obviously uses Linux, but does everyone use arch?

joyjoy, (edited )

Not enough. Spread the word.

bobs_monkey,

I’m doing my part!

UnRelatedBurner,

I can only use arch at so many places simultaneously

Pizzasgood,
Pizzasgood avatar

True. However, thanks to the magic of virtual machines you can run multiple instances of arch on each device! Just be careful you don't run too many overlapping arches or they'll transform into domelinux and the HOA will fine you for architectural mismatch.

Kidplayer_666,

Why would someone recommend an OS that sucks

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t know a bad OS until you’ve tried something like TempleOS

captainlezbian,

I wouldn’t call TempleOS bad, it’s just designed for a different use case. Most OSes are designed to function for productivity. TempleOS is designed to display schizophrenic delusions

Honytawk,

An OS is about compatibility and function.

TempleOS has neither.

YoorWeb,

From wiki: "As a child, Davis [the author of TempleOS] used an Apple II at his elementary school, and as a teenager, learned assembly language on a Commodore 64. He earned a master’s degree in electrical engineering from Arizona State University in 1994. […] In 2005, Davis stated that his ambition for [his] Operating System was “to recreate the dynamic environment that used to exist when the Commodore 64 was around and everyone was creating odd-ball software”. He envisioned the system as a Commodore 64 with a “thousand times” more powerful processing speed. Three years later, he wrote that the primary purpose of LoseThos was “for making video games. It has no networking or Internet support. As far as I’m concerned, that would be reinventing the wheel”.

AVincentInSpace,

…and he proceeded to rant about how his OS was better than Linux every chance he got

YoorWeb,

As you’d expect from someone who suffered from schizophrenia and variety of other mental issues. This doesn’t change the fact that Temple OS is impressive considering that it was made by one man.

captainlezbian,

Yeah, people love to talk and speculate on where madness and genius intersect, but his is a stark reminder of what that can so often look like. When the mental illness is something like adhd or autism or depression you can get folks like Einstein Newton and DaVinci (or yet another person who drank or drugged themselves to death because they couldn’t cope with everything and their inability to act on their genius), but there are mental illnesses like his where it isn’t some quirks or something easy to brush aside because they’re doing something great. What he did was impressive and brilliant and never capable of being anything more than a novelty and he didn’t seem to understand that fact.

Kidplayer_666,

That’s sacrilege. Temple os is the best os

atocci,
atocci avatar

The only real OS

jabathekek,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

🙏

MindSkipperBro12,

Hey, don’t talk about Linux like that, no matter how true it is!

Kidplayer_666,

At Linux is my garbage contrary to Microsoft Windows which is just garbage

DaCookeyMonsta,

Hey Steve, have you considered wearing pants?

Background Penguin in speedo looks on disapprovingly

joyjoy,

There’s this great new invention. It’s called soap. Have you heard of it?

Daft_ish,

BS, everyone always talks about the latest version of windows as if 98 isn’t the template all modern guis start with.

Me personally, tho, only run ME.

ILikeBoobies,

when a product is better, people recommend it

supercriticalcheese,

that’s cause they are special:)))

smileyhead,

And since when recommending operating system is weird? People recommend YouTube channels, productivity apps, TV shows, tech gadgets… Recommending something that is second most popular thing is not weird.

I got a friend who was constantly downloading shit from shady “gratis” software sites injecting adware. Because of common reinstalling I had to do for him I had to create second partition for his personal files to not constantly transfer them back and forth the USB disk. But then he struggle to manage his files, because I couldn’t just put his /home directory on separate logical volume, no. Windows required him to juggle files around C: and D: drives with fixed sizes and with Desktop and Downloads being on C: anyway. People using Btrfs or LVM know what I am talking about. As he mostly used a browser, LibreOffice and games from Steam/Epic, why I shouldn’t suggest him another OS?

Another example can be my grandpa with older computer (talking 2GB of RAM) that is perfectly happy with lightweight but modern system. Or my nephew who loves playing with painting programs, webcam and Minesweeper-like games without additional popups or TikTok shortcuts being placed in app menu.

Enzy,

windows is shit

i use windows btw

Sanyanov,

Windows is shit

I use Linux btw

librechad,

Linux is shit

I use GNU/Hurd btw

Sanyanov,

Based

You outfreed us all

Acters,

Friend always talks about talking about linux with girls, acts weird and stuff. Its so dramatic, I wonder if he is being sarcastic. On the other hand, he is the only person I know outside of the internet who talks about linux while using a windows laptop as a daily driver

dukk,

Damn, I used to be that guy too (the one who talks about Linux whilst using Windows). I actually posted my Windows rice as a Linux rice in unixporn a while ago…it really did look like Linux.

I use NixOS now, but I keep Windows on a separate drive in case I ever need it.

Jeom,
@Jeom@lemmy.world avatar

haha that second part is hilarious

TheCheddarCheese,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

as a linux user i can confirm that is true. even though i use ubuntu. in fact this very comment proves it.

UnRelatedBurner,

I use Arch btw

Peffse,

Would you recommend it?

TheCheddarCheese,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

yes

itsmaxyd,

I use arch btw

cows_are_underrated,

I use Arch btw

Kuba,

Arch uses me me btw

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i’d like to be used by arch

iAvicenna,

I use Linux btw.

Gimp is great and free btw.

I can just compress that video with a single command btw.

You want to resize that image? Let me pull up a terminal. This is Linux btw.

( Even though not all of us are using Arch, we all have little Arch trolls inside us)

sgbrain7,

This meme is so old I can see the crust on it

key,

The demotivational format is one I’m thankful to be rid of. They were good for like 5 days when they would actually parody the original posters. But then it was years of it being an absurdly awkward caption format

cashews_best_nut,

The actual posters were great! Its that exact kind of cynicism I find refreshing.

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