Sludgeyy,

This is why water beds are amazing

Winter you put memory foam to keep you from the cold water, in summer you sleep on the cold water.

Only downsides to a water bed are: 1. Heavy 2. You have to add chemicals to your mattress as regular maintenance 3. It can’t really be extra firm (but a lot more firm than people think)

The water will steal every bit of heat from your body, but you’ll stay warm with a blanket

Emmie, (edited )

Sometimes I can’t take a bath cause the moving water makes my head spinny. I can’t imagine how bad the water bed would feel lol. I’d probably have mid night breaks for puking.

Sludgeyy,

That’s a misconception for water beds.

High-quality water beds have stabilizer pads in the mattress

The idea of the old crappy 70’s water bed where they slosh around is a poor idea.

You aren’t laying on a ziploc bag barely filled with any water.

It’s more like a ziploc bag filled with molasses. If I pushed a corner down it would slowly bring up everywhere else. If I stopped pushing a corner it everything would slowly go back down.

Say I have a massive gut and sleeping on my right side. I’m displacing X amount of water. If I was to turn to my left side I am still displacing the same amount of water. Just the empty space that use to hold my gut would be filled with the water from the other side where my gut is now. Someone on other side of bed wouldn’t even feel it because the water underneath them doesn’t change.

Emmie, (edited )

Thing must weigh like a ton and that without the gut. How do they even assemble this stuff? And whole thing sounds like an accident waiting to happen

Sludgeyy,

Yeah, they can weigh up to 2000lbs with a king-size bed. A king-size bed is 6,080 sq in.

A fridge can weigh 300lb being 36"×30". 1,152 sq in.

Fridge is .26 pounds per sq inch. A water bed is .33 pounds per sq inch.

So while heavy the weight is distributed basically like a fridge. This is assuming an empty fridge.

As for durability, a quality waterbed mattress is thick. You aren’t going to pop it or cut it without deliberately trying to.

Even if you took a knife and stabbed it from the top, it’s not going to leak until you put weight on it.

Rinox, (edited )

It really depends on where you are. There are places where summer is the same temperature as some other place’s winter.

Also, I hate the fact that in winter you have to stay inside all the time, there’s no sun and everything is cold and sad. Spring and Summer are the times of the year when you travel, go out, enjoy nature and make memories.

And if you have a decently insulated home or AC, you can sleep great.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

come to sweden, where the winters make people kill themselves and the summers are actually a fairytale wonderland.

Smorty,

Love fairytales, will visit Sweden now

ManniSturgis,

I am happy sitting alone on my computer. Sweden sounds amazing.

TwoCubed,

I make memories in winter too though. Nothing better than playing in the snow with your little daughter. Or ice-skating.

Also, pubs are fucking great in the winter.

That said, I do prefer the summers we have here. The temperature is always around 23-27 °C here, which is great. Also very little humidity.

rambling_lunatic,

Cries in tropical weather

Even when it rains, it can still be over 30 degrees. Life is pain.

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Winter is about to arrive down here. It’s dry season, with “cold” (18-22º C) nights and scorching hot (29º+) days. Oh, and there’s a fuckton of heatwaves that might come around, which are totally not caused by excessive pollution and CO2 emission!

rambling_lunatic,

I feel you, man. I live by the coast. I’ll be lucky if my neighborhood doesn’t join Atlantis in the next decade.

MoonRaven,
@MoonRaven@feddit.nl avatar
LiveLM,

It was a beautiful 3 chilly days over here, now we went back to our regular daily hell 🫠🫠🫠

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

learn to open your doors and windows in the nighttime (with bug nets obviously) and keep them closed during the day, nature’s AC.

ManniSturgis, (edited )

That works now, but from June to August the nights aren’t all that much cooler and there is rarely any wind either. Still makes sense, but it feels so futile. I am Sisyphus.

petrol_sniff_king,

I still like to, if I can, because I don’t want old-breath hotboxing CO^2 brain damage. My mom calls this fresh air.

lud,

The nights aren’t very cool in some parts of the world.

I wish bug nets for windows (or at all) were standard in Sweden. In some places in the country you will be bitten by 10 thousand mosquitoes just because you dared to open the window for a minute.

I keep my PC in my bedroom so it’s hard in general to keep the room comfortable but in the winter you can at least open the windows for a few seconds and nearly instantly make the room comfortable (and without insects). In the summer it’s fucking impossible to keep the room cool no matter what you do. At least the PC has good cooling so it survives; I just wish I would.

PixeIOrange,

You can install bug nets yourself easily. There are some from tesa, its the net and a roll of velcro-like tape. I love them.

Lila_Uraraka,

How about is autumn/spring enjoyers?

ManniSturgis,

Everyone enjoys those. It’s not controversial.

Lila_Uraraka,

Fair enough

AeonFelis,

This is a silly thing to argue over because we don’t get to pick seasons and have to live through the one currently on.

Darorad,

Maybe you don’t

Honytawk,

You can however move to a hotter/colder climate. You don’t need to suffer the climate you don’t enjoy if you’re willing to suffer the consequence

Emmie, (edited )

I don’t think many people have such privilege to change countries they live in freely based on whims

JasonDJ,

If you can’t pick seasons you just need to pick yourself up by the bootstraps. No reason anybody can’t pick seasons.

roguetrick,

I quickly acclimate to either, but it’s not fun. Low 50f/10C is very comfortable to me by late January while 90f/32C is fine in July. It’s the damn December and May that are hell.

psud,

10°C is fine in sunlight or still air. If there’s a breeze it is cold. Great cycling weather though, you can dump so much heat and barely need gloves

roguetrick, (edited )

I’m abit extreme with how much seasonal variation, in that I use extremely little climate control in my house (a fan at most and usually only a single space heater). Nighttime/morning exterior temps dropping to 25f/-4C was pretty normal this winter. I’d guess the house stayed just above 0C at the lowest for the most part. Usually start acclamating with a few cold showers. The problem is 70 starts feeling oppressive and I end up getting heat uticaria going grocery shopping lol.

abbiistabbii,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I just want to wear as simple an outfit as I can and get away with it without freezing, ok?

psud,

Have you considered living in the tropics?

abbiistabbii,
@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Have you considered Deez Nuts?

DaCrazyJamez,

I have an in-window AC that runs on full blast at night in the summers on top of my whole-house AC. 58 degrees FTabsoluteW.

Zink,

Wow. I am impressed from where I sit, in a house with the AC set to 66F, sometimes 65, to save energy vs where we might otherwise set it.

psud, (edited )

People consider 70 ideal, don’t they? So 65 is only a saving in winter, you would set a higher temperature than ideal in summer

Zink,

Yeah, it was kind of a joke to say I’d probably like it even colder.

And 65 does just happen to be our default winter setting!

Rinox, (edited )

I bet you also sleep with a heavy blanket as if it were winter.

I got sick last time I was in the US cause everywhere was like 16°C while outside was like 30-35°C. What’s your problem, people?

JasonDJ,

We love AC. We also realize that it’s easier tod add layers than to take them off, when out in public.

Bring a hoodie? 🤷

randint,
@randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

I set my AC to 26°C (79°F) in summers. As far as I know, most people in my country do somewhere between 20 and 26°C (68~79°F).

Coreidan,

Wow Exxon loves you

cryptix,
DaCrazyJamez,

For now…solar panels are going in soon, which should more than cover it

capital,

Not gonna do shit at night.

I bought a battery for mine but you’re about to find how just how much power your AC system uses.

DaCrazyJamez,

I know exactly how much it uses, I still have a regular electric bill.

capital, (edited )

In relation to how much power you’re going to make.

Are you buying batteries? Unless you’re buying a whole lot of them ($$$) you’re not even making it one night running your AC like that.

I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.

I stress average because summers were double that, sometimes 2.6x.

JasonDJ,

I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.

Good thing you have a sun for most of the other 2/3.

capital,

Have you even looked at the power curve of solar system output? You’re being obtuse.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6ff6c5c6-9499-4d9f-b67e-d4ffb415a360.png

Plus you seem to have completely ignored the last portion of my comment.

I rarely had months where I zeroed out my bill since I was in an area where credits weren’t a thing. My overproduction was sold back at ~$0.03 per kWh. I had to buy at ~$0.12.

You can be snarky if you like. You’re still wrong if you think that’s enough to cover summer days.

Rinox,

I don’t know where you are from, but I’ve been to the US a couple of times and I can understand why the AC power bill can be absurd there. You cannot keep, in August, in the middle of the desert, AC at 18°C when outside there are 35-40°C. It’s criminal on so many levels.

I had a layover in Atlanta last summer and I got home sick, so much was the air conditioning in the airport and in shops and restaurants. Outside it was proper sweating hot, inside I was freezing while wearing a hoodie. I’ve been on a bus where the driver was wearing a heavy jacket, in August, and all because the bus AC was set to something like 15°C. What is wrong with Americans?

Keep AC at 25-27°C, remove all blankets and clothes when you go to sleep, and I bet you it will consume a lot less energy. Unless you live in the Death Valley, in which case, good luck.

DaCrazyJamez,

Yup, could do this. Have tried to do this. Slept like shit. Not worth it. I’ll spend the extra $50/mo on cranking the AC to wake up each day feeling decent.

capital, (edited )

This was in west Texas so yeah, basically desert.

I fully agree - every thread like this has people coming out of the woodwork claiming they’d simply die if their house isn’t =< 65f. Maybe it’s because we’re so fat?

25c/77f is a perfectly reasonable temperature to have your house at. If I lived alone, it’d be 78 in the summer.

lightnsfw,

I live in a basement so it stays a little cooler but I was sitting at 77ish all summer last year with the Windows open and AC vents closed. I have never been so comfortable. Before I did that my housemates were freezing me out with the AC. I was walking around in a sweatshirt when it was 95 outside. Coincidentally both of them are overweight.

psud, (edited )

My house was built with vents, un-closable, always venting vents. Inside temperature equals outside air temperature plus a little draft as the air moves from inside to outside and outside to inside

Heating or cooling is economically impractical, except in two rooms, one with no vent and one with a vent blocked with foil

I look forward to a knock down/rebuild where the future house will be will insulated and will exchange air with the outside in measured, heat exchanged doses and solar powered air con can heat or cool the house in peak solar generation and the house will be pleasant the rest of the day and night. I’m comfortable in 18°C to about 26° in winter and a little offset upwards in summer, and it’s pretty easy to build to not gain or lose more than 8° in 18 hours in my climate (lows in the single digit negatives Celcius; highs seldom more than 40°C)

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

exxon fucking HATES heat pumps, they want everyone to live in the coldest winter burning fossil fuels to survive.

chumbalumber,

Autumn lovers >>> all other seasons

Cethin,

It’s my favorite season, except this past year it was rarely ever cool. Winter was better this year. I feel like that’s only going too become more true as we go on.

TheFriar, (edited )

It’s barely a season though. Summer and winter are months long. Any place that actually gets something akin to autumn anymore, itonly lasts for like a few weeks. If that. There are two seasons: summer and winter. They just have barely discernible transition periods which more often than not amount to a few days of back and forth weather, from nice for a day or two, back to the previous seasons temps, then lurching forward to the next, then back and forth with some median-“season” days mixed in mid swing.

Thanks Shell, Exxon, BP, Koch industries, Lockheed, et al

Lila_Uraraka,

Yep, they fucked up the planet just to make more money. I’d rather buy an NFT made by an AI than give those people another penny, if I had a choice in the matter

jose1324,

Sounds like climate change alright!

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

throwback to the almost summer temperatures back in january, and now snow just a week ago in april, i love this timeline.

jbk,

easier to warm up than cool down imo

psud,

Clothes-wise sure, we put it 100W at rest, we need only capture that.

I really don’t get why you can still buy cooling-only air conditioners when any heat pump can work just as well in either direction

Every aircon should heat or cool the indoor space as required

Then it becomes easy to cool or warm at ~400% efficiency

JasonDJ,

As s far as window units go, one of the biggest losses is in insulation around the window.

Those that have window units do so because there’s really no alternative.

Would bi-directional window-mount ACs be effective heaters, given how much loss a window unit sees through drafts?

psud,

If it works for cooling there’s no reason it wouldn’t work for heating. If they need to stand in the air path for cooling they will need to stand in the air path for heat

JasonDJ, (edited )

Yeah but the ∆T between cooling and heating is way different.

Here in MA, we cool as much as Outdoor - 30F, but we often heat Outdoor + 50F. Sometimes more. Drafts introduced by a poor seal (which is often the case with window units) would be a big deal, no?

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

bug repellent, my beloved

HowManyNimons,

Makes sex worse.

FilterItOut,

You didn’t want to mate with that mantis anyway, trust me, bro. I’ve got your back.

python,

man i wish it was summer already

I’m most cozy at an air temp of like 30°C :( It barely ever gets this hot here in Germany

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