I think Bambu is taking a reasonable approach - allowing people to do what they want, with the understanding that you can’t have it both ways, so you are either in the closed ecosystem with support and warranty, or not.
I mean even if you install X1 Plus you’re still in the closed eco system hardware wise. Sure you can get the belts and hotends from third parties. But the mainboards not. If that one breaks you can’t use anyone elses
the wording and way they said they would “have a web page” where you can unlock it made my decision easy. If I have to hope that in the future they have a website that will let me get a special code to “unlock” my printer then I dont really own it.
As soon as their announcement came out, I got a Voron 2.4, it will be my printer and no one but me gets to say when its EOL.
Right now you can install the custom firmware, put it in lan only mode and disable internet access.
Then no one can tell you when its EOL
This website is just because they closed the loophole in the firmware that allows flashing with a current update (you can downgrade your firmware to open it again) and to make it as clear as possible
I disagree. I like their tech, I think it’s cool how they (nearly?) managed to have an inkjet-like experience for an FDM printer. (As in, click, wait, take off print). However, I got (rightfully, though I say so myself) spooked by the news that their printers started randomly printing worldwide due to an error in their cloud services. That should just not happen. Ever.
In what way is my statement naive? LAN only mode allows you to fully use the camera and network connectivity from withint OrcaSlicer. You can disable the internet access from your router to make double sure.
Then there is absolutely no way that via software the printer can be put EOL. There are multiple third-party replacement parts on aliexpress. If your mainboard dies, then yes. You HAVE to go back to bambulab for that. Or atleast for now. I have hopes that further development of X1 Plus will enable the use of third-party chips / boards.
So… explain why i would be woefully naive. And stop being condescending about it buddy.
If you haven’t yet, I strongly suggest reading the other comments here that are also contrary to your viewpoint (not to mention 2-3 days old). That fact that it’s technically naive to trust a corporation not to fuck over its consumer base is lost on you is telling, and I have other things to do than waste time holding your hand, bud. 🤗
Voron kit is already shipping, hope to start building next week. The idea of click and print is nice, but not at the expense of being part of the “apple” of 3d printings behest.
You’re not being dramatic enough - if you switch your point of view from user to creator. I’ll try to explain my point of view:
This is a hardware company just learning oppen software at best and there are a lot worse scenarios.
The homepage is an artificial loop. Correct me if I’m wrong but LAN mode wasn’t even fully functional on rollout.
They create awesome and exciting machines but that you point a critique of their closed system business practice as “overly dramatic” is interesting.
From my point of view notions like this will increase the split of the communities even further (makers VS users VS builders).
This doesn’t have to be a bad thing from my perspective nor is it the fault of Bambu - it’s just that individual people with their own focus will have a vastly different perception of how much intensity (aka drama) is appropriate.
I’ll definitely check this out when I have time. Maybe once the warranty is up I’ll give it a try, which isn’t too far away since the warranty is only good for 1 year where I live.
This is honestly really great news. I watched Teaching Tech’s coverage of the X1Plus jailbreak firmware and it looked really comprehensive, the team even took his feature suggestion and had it implemented and ready within a day.
While I do have some reservations about Bambu Labs’ proprietary printers in the typically open source 3D printing landscape, I do appreciate that they’re not dancing around that issue and instead found a path which allows customers to officially run custom firmware should they so choose.
It’s a little unfortunate that the custom firmware waives your warranty though IMO, although it’s really nice that they’ve made the unlock process easy. Fairphone as an example offer a similar way of allowing their bootloaders to be unlocked, where you go to their website and type in some numbers printed under the phone’s back cover, and they take you to a page where you are explained the risks of doing so - however unlike Bambu, Fairphone are willing to respect the warranty as long as the phone has been reverted back to the OEM firmware.
All in all though this is great to see and I’m looking forward to seeing what people do with their CFW Bambu machines
I agree. I chose not to go with the P1S because of Bambu’s proprietary nature. I don’t NEED to SSH into my printer or mess around in the internals, but it’s nice to have that option, especially once a manufacturer moves on from an old model. It would be ideal to have community support once that happens. I went with the Qidi X-Plus 3 because of build volume and price too, not just openness, but aside from Bambu’s wireless printing for some reason requiring data to go through their cloud I’ve only heard good things. I think this move to allow third party firmware is very smart and will draw more of the maker market, not just the average consumer.
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