Oshka,
Oshka avatar

Jesus.....why would he even bother adjusting the business model if part of the agreement was he makes zero money??....Am I missing understanding something? Seems like a waste of time on developers part...

PixelPassport,

Yeah it seems crazy, I'm pretty interested to see how many people will pay for it.

Oshka,
Oshka avatar

Agreed. Damn sure I won't be one of them lol. Never going back.

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

IIUC Narwhal 1 will be free but will drop its ads in return for being free (so a non-commercial app). Rather than a special deal I figure that this passed under the same rule that other noncommercial apps like RedReader did.

Narwhal 2 will charge a subscription to cover the API fees, including top up fees if you go over some limit, suggesting this is the normal reddit API pricing. I think developers of like Apollo couldn't do this because they had preexisting annual subscriptions. I guess Narwhal didn't have anything like this.

Oshka,
Oshka avatar

I guess I thought the whole issue was even if the app was not commercial, in order for users to actually make it work they need to use reddit API and that's unsustainable since it cost money regardless. Maybe that's where my misunderstanding stems from. I'm not the most tech savvy with all this API stuff.

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

Your understanding is correct, but reddit did announce exemptions for noncommercial apps and accessibility apps (without defining the latter term). IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be lunprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

without defining the latter term

Which is why many of us rolled our eyes and ignored the statement as usual lol

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

Yup. Count myself as one of the eye rollers.

NotAPenguin,

I don't think they said noncommercial and accessibility apps but rather noncommercial accessibility apps

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

Ah possible. Maybe Narwhal 1 was still able to get an exemption under this rule (because reddit never defined what an accessibility app was) and is just keeping mum about or downplaying the accessibility angle.

Oshka,
Oshka avatar

Thank you! Finally getting a complete understanding. Appreciate the info!

wjrii,
wjrii avatar

IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be unprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

They did, ignoring the fact that the scales are completely different and the fact that the 3PAs helped mods and engaged, contributing members provide content and services that Reddit didn't have to pay for, thereby mitigating or maybe even completely counterbalancing the costs of supporting them.

abff08f4813c,
abff08f4813c avatar

Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

WonkoTheSane,

It seems like there’s going to be a super premium tier for power users to cover that cost

iamsgod,

including top up fees if you go over some limit

top up fees for some forum? lol

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