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If a Kbin member requests deletion of their personal account and they happen to be a community owner, would ownership of that community default to the moderator with the next-longest tenure? That's how it worked at the bad place, is it the same way here?

Not sure, but account deletion is a manual process here. I suspect what actually happens is that the magazine is tranferred to the default owner / first admin account. On kbin.social that would be ernest.

See for example https://kbin.social/m/trans - a sub with few threads. I think the original owner successfully requested account deletion which is why that sub is owned by ernest now.

See also https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/258090/How-does-Delete-Account-work-currently

How long does account deletion normally take after the deletion is requested?

Not sure of the historical average time. It's a manual process though so it will take some time for the admins to get to it.

Also, do the posts get nuked along with the account, or do they remain on Kbin?

I saw an example of this some months ago. It seems like the posts do get nuked, though with recent updates I'm not 100% certain that this is still the case. Again see /m/trans - most likely it was one of those subs where most of the threads were started by the owner posting, so when the owner's account was deleted, so to did those threads and posts.

Actually it's worse than this - as the entire thread is gone, including other commenters' replies.

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Well, if nothing else I'm glad that Clinton v. Jones means he'd not be immune to a civil lawsuit in that case.

I'm pretty sure this would be wrong and couldn't happen. Remember then-commander of the US Strategic Command Air Force General John Hyten saying that he'd refuse to follow an illegal presidential order to launch a nuclear attack? Or retired Air Force General Robert Kehler saying the same thing?

Edit: references:

https://truthout.org/articles/the-duty-to-disobey-a-nuclear-launch-order/

https://apnews.com/article/14eb66de62fc49b181680ccbd7394646

Almost certainly Seal 6 and the military chain of command above these folks would refuse to obey any such order.

And if this guy were to do it himself - well the duties of the President don't include using weapons, let alone assassination - so a good argument would be made that this was his own personal conduct rather than something stemming from the duties of the Presidential Office.

Finally, the murder would almost certainly occur in a State - so even if federal folks have their hands tied, he could be tried and convicted by a State court in absentia. (Perhaps State Troopers wouldn't be able to actually get their hands on him until after he left office, but unless he dies in Office this guy would eventually have to pay for that crime.)

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Follow up to this - the one place where I can see this happening, that's not in a State, would be D.C.

While the 1973 Home Rule Act is much weaker than having the Constitution reserve certain powers to the States, I'd guess that it does empower enough so that the DC Mayor and the Metropolitan Police Department can investigate and make arrests.

To that end, I'm greatly encouraged by the fact that the one time a US President was arrested, it happened in DC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/03/21/president-arrested-ulysses-grant-speeding/

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It's been a long time since we've had a major redrawning of parties in the US - remember the Whig party? Heck, Dems and Repubs were once a single party - the Democratic Republicans.

I wonder if a loss would mean the effective end of the GOP, but perhaps a split in the Dems as more liberal (e.g. Basic Income supporters) break off from some more conservative Dems, leading to a new two party system..

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One possibility I see is that the SC tries to retain some credibility by punting this back to the states. They rule something along the lines of, without explicit guidance from Congress then each state may come up with their own rules for determining how the insurrection clause applies, and these rules will hold until such time that Congress speaks up, even if they are inconsistent with or even outright contradict the rules from another state.

Thus he technically loses, and is stricken from both democratic Colorado and Maine, but no one will be able to use the SC ruling to get him off the ballot in e.g. Texas or Alabama.

The other way the SC could punt is simply to run out the clock, and when the GOP primaries have been decided simply declare the issue moot. (This wouldn't work if the guy ends up winning the Presidency as then they'd have to resolve the question of his ineligibility at some point - but if he loses in the end they can just wait for him to lose and then say it's moot, because deciding the answer wouldn't have changed the outcome - he wouldn't have become President again either way.) The cynic in me can see the SC preferring to punt this way as it leaves the door open to actually ruling in favor of using the insurrection clause this way - in some future election cycle against a Dem presidential candidate who doesn't deserve it.

Colorado judge rejects attempt to bar Trump from 2024 ballot under 'insurrection' clause (coloradonewsline.com)

A Colorado judge has ordered the state’s top elections official to place former President Donald Trump on the 2024 primary ballot, rejecting a lawsuit from a group of voters who argued the Republican frontrunner is constitutionally ineligible to hold office under a Civil War-era insurrection clause.

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The new article links to an academic article which describes the full legal theory, https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3978095

The short version, from the news article, is this:

“It appears to the Court that for whatever reason the drafters of Section 3 did not intend to include a person who had only taken the Presidential Oath.”

The academic article goes on in some detail hypothesizing why this might have been the case. Basically at the time it was written, every former President had been some other kind of Officer first, and even today Drumpf is the sole exception, so the omission of the P and VP might have been a sort of compromise to make it easier to get that amendment passed.

The academic article does a good job of proposing that it's not a simple oversight - remember that a former US President had joined the Confederacy at that time, so this sort of thing was exactly at the top of their minds.

As much as I would personally disagree with this, I have to admit that the legal arguments made seem very sound to my layman's understanding of things. Really unfortunate, though I do see a silver lining here - most other challenges have dealt with how hard it is to define an insurrection and if Drumpf really participated or not. At least the judge here did indeed agree with the fact that Drumpf was part of an insurrection.

Perhaps States can pass laws that, in addition to requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns to be eligible to stand in that State, also require that candidates a) never took part in an insurrection or b) apologized for it. As Drumpf would never apologize, he'd thus not be eligible to stand.

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The new article links to an academic article which describes the full legal theory, https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3978095

The short version, from the news article, is this:

“It appears to the Court that for whatever reason the drafters of Section 3 did not intend to include a person who had only taken the Presidential Oath.”

The academic article goes on in some detail hypothesizing why this might have been the case. Basically at the time it was written, every former President had been some other kind of Officer first, and even today Drumpf is the sole exception, so the omission of the P and VP might have been a sort of compromise to make it easier to get that amendment passed. (Really surprising that Congressmen/women and judges are Officers in this sense, and even some State officials like State governor, but not the V or VP.)

The academic article does a good job of proposing that it's not a simple oversight - remember that a former US President had joined the Confederacy at that time, so this sort of thing was exactly at the top of their minds.

As much as I would personally disagree with this, I have to admit that the legal arguments made seem very sound to my layman's understanding of things. Really unfortunate, though I do see a silver lining here - most other challenges have dealt with how hard it is to define an insurrection and if Drumpf really participated or not. At least the judge here did indeed agree with the fact that Drumpf was part of an insurrection.

Perhaps States can pass laws that, in addition to requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns to be eligible to stand in that State, also require that candidates a) never took part in an insurrection or b) apologized for it. As Drumpf would never apologize, he'd thus not be eligible to stand.

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Perhaps you could assert a copyright claim to the extent that you own your own modified version of the text of the rules - at least the sockpuppet would have to change the wording.

Just wanted a warning, Lemmy.World is perhaps worse than reddit at respecting their users (web.archive.org)

I just suddenly found my user over there banned. Not for getting in a fight or breaking any rules, but just for criticizing and asking questions regarding its recent vague Terms of Service. In fact, no reason, warning, or reply was given beforehand, and the admin who did it suddenly scaled to banned, with no reply or anything...

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Would love to hear more about the ansible way.

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Hey OP, are you covered by the GDPR or CCPA?

If so perhaps you could ask for a copy of your data that lemmy world has on your former accounts, and report to the regulator if they ignore your request. Not sure if federation helps or hurts - like could you say that lemmy world must have something of your data since other federated servers still have a copy of your content?

Would be nice if there was a way to use the GDPR here to bring some addtional accountability to the lemmy world admins.

We need more / faster moderation

Ive spent the last week in shock at the lack of moderation because magazines and federated stuff is only moderated by @ernest who I know is busy with development. But the magazines that are on kbin.social and were setup as "Template" magazines are getting trashed either with spam/porn or toxic comments that were reported long...

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There's reason to be hopeful now. Ernest has posted an update about instance moderators who will be able to moderate mags that are either admin owned (and so otherwise wouldn't have other moderators to moderate them) or for those mags which are abandoned.

https://kbin.social/m/kbinDevlog/t/598708/kbin-RTR-3-The-role-of-a-moderator-at-the-instance

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Interesting. I'm looking to run my own single user instance, so this is something to keep in mind I suppose.

Trump Shares Posts Pitching Himself as Speaker and Calling Kevin McCarthy a Traitor (www.mediaite.com)

I know we’re living in the crapsack timeline, but I didn’t realize it was a crapsack made of little shit people that the Republicans sculpted like they were Play-Doh and then threw them in the sack and made screaming noises, pretending the little shit people were screaming, before declaring that sack to be their new...

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Also, specific to the role of Speaker, he’s disqualified due to having been indicted of felonies with a term of more than two years.

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Same here. I've been trying to find the time to do this for a while.

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This is great to hear, regarding the live API on artemis.camp

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or prison for the chump you suckered into cheap labour.

I'm not seeing the 'or' bit. The article says the driver was already sentenced to nine years back in 2019. So it might be prison and deportation.

It also says he was a new permanent resident when the crime was committed. I'm surprised how they can so easily deport someone who has PR.

allow this situation to happen and all its gonna be is a civil fine for you

Alas, this is the real problem. And this case/hearing isn't going to affect the precedent on that, it will only affect the precedent for the future chumps.

Reddit Activity Plummeted After The Protests - by Adam Bumas (www.garbageday.email)

Last month marked the official end of the Reddit protests. Any subreddit that had changed its rules or gone dark — or forced its users to post exclusively about John Oliver — has now gone back to normal. On the surface, it seems like a complete victory for Reddit, but things aren’t so simple when a major element of that...

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You are correct. If you look at the tracker at https://reddark.untone.uk/ you will see that there are still subs that are private as part of the protest.

Reddit forced some of the biggests ones to reopen, and failed to force some other slightly lessor subs to reopen and ended up shuttering them. But this means the protests worked. Traffic at Reddit is down, and staying way down, so signs are that they have permanently lost ad traffic.

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The one thing I never understood is why did the Oliver subs go back to normal instead of sticking with Oliver. Finally, interest was lost in the Oliver jokes and traffic was going down. So it would have been the perfect time to enforce Oliver and cut into the ads traffic that way. News articles at the time didn't show any indication that this was another moved forced by reddit admins so why did the mods seemingly cave in without cause?

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Following. Would love to get some peertube recommendations.

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Exactly this.

And in fairness, when a magazine has active mods, it seems to be dealt with quickly. The problem is for some older magazines where the mod isn't so active - and we have a set of magazines dedicated to kbin itself and run by ernest, so one can imagine how tough that is to balance the mod responsibilities there with all the other things ernest has to handle.

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Reddit's approach to replacement mod appointments has further damaged community trust in Reddit

Interesting that an article owned by the holding company of reddit (Arstechnica and reddit are both owned by Conde Nast) would be so critical of reddit.

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IIRC the official reason was that some automated anti-spam code accidentally caught the kbin user agent and mistakenly added it to a block list, and the lemmy.ml admins were busy and didn't see it for over a week - but once one of them noticed it was promptly fixed.

Also, I recall this being specific to lemmy.ml - other instances run by other admins like lemmy.world and lemmy.ca weren't affected.

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Yes, it's a manual process. You put in a request and the admins get to it when they have a chance.

I'm guessing but I put in what I thought happened to the magazine owner over at https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin/t/771954/Questions-about-community-ownership-moderation-and-succession - in short the first admin (ernest here) becomes the new owner is my guess.

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