Kjatten,

Truly inspiring, so much we’ve changed since then. That sense of ideation of the future would be nice to have.

Subverb,

Politics has always been a rough business. From the assassination of Julius Ceasar to the infamous Caning of Charles Sumner in 1856 which Congressman Preston Brooks beat Senator Charles Sumner nearly to death on the Senate floor with his cane.

TWeaK,
mojo,

I’d like to bring back this tradition

LillyPip,

This poor idealist would have an aneurysm if he had a portal to today.

Everyone thinks the world is crumbling because of modern politics, but ‘modern politics’ have been killing us for thousands of years.

It’s very hard to fix things when we can’t even get people to learn that they’re just remouldung yesterday’s issues. Many of these issues have already been solved, but people don’t want to hear the solutions.

So let’s just keep on killing each other, because that helps.

CitizenKong,

An idealist from 1924 would probably come to the conclusion that overall, the world has changed for the better. Well, until you explain climate change to them.

crossfadedragon,

Sad thing is, I don’t think in a lot of cases, it’s a matter of learning so much as not caring.

When I was a kid I watched planet of the apes [ original one ] with my babysitter. She said the world was basically apes with cars.

That always stuck with me, and as adult I feel the world basically does boil down to that.

KISSmyOS,

Let’s work towards a world of apes without cars

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crossfadedragon,

Honestly my car feels like a big burden at times.

KISSmyOS,

I’m lucky enough to live in an area where I don’t need one.
It’s honestly liberating.

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Nothing has changed.

Our government’s system is corruption.

diskmaster23,

Capitalism

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

A real free market would mean that no one gets any bailouts when they fail. All the banks and real-estate scammers would be out of business 1,000,000 times over if we had a real free market.

It would actually be possible to work your way to a better place if we had a real free market where people are chosen by merit for the best positions. The majority of the parasites on the board of executives of every corporation would be fired instantly, because none of them contribute to anything.

It’s not true capitalism we’re living in, we’re living in a corporate dictatorship where the ultra rich are the only ones who ever really win at the economic game we all have to play to survive.

ZombieMantis,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

Corporatism & monopoly are the natural evolution of “true” & “free market” capitalism. Wealth accumulates, markets are manipulated, rules are rewritten. There’s a reason we call it “late stage” capitalism.

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

No argument there. I’m just saying, no one is supposed to get any socialism in a real free market.

When billionaires lose all their money from being stupid, arrogant narcissists, they get bailouts, and regular people go bankrupt because of medical bills, or they lose all their money from trying to keep up with their student debt, we’re fucked for the rest of our lives.

We really need to tax all billionaires by 99% of their money above like…$10,000,000 in one year. We have to set the nominal rate that high, because of the loopholes and deductions, once that’s all accounted for, the effective rate will only be 50% at most.

All these idiots in congress talk about the debt and deficit as a reason to stop the cashflow of disability benefits and social safetynet programs, but then without missing a beat they say that we need to spend even more billions on war or bailing out the scammers on wallstreet that committed so much fraud they crashed the economy in 2008.

Like I said…corporate dictatorship oligarchy

LillyPip,

Aye. Capitalism is repackaged monarchism and the gentry of the middle lords that grew out of the failed lordships and monarchist politics of the late 1700s, which has expanded to now.

** We were willing to eat the rich back then, and I still am

Anticorp,

Wait, so the politicians were grafters (hard workers), not grifters? So among all the negatives, they found a positive for politicians?

mycatiskai,

I believe it is the regular definition rather than the slang definition.

a person who obtains money or other advantage by dishonest, unfair, or illegal means, especially through the abuse of position or influence in politics, business,

15liam20,
uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Boodlers (according to Webster) or Sharpers

Hooligans
Reprobates
Swindlers
Blackguards
Profligates
Scoundrels
Wastrels
Miscreants

Caboose12000, (edited )

I’m confused, doesn’t the way this is written imply that none of that is true, but rather that their newspapers are sensationalized? why is everyone going “same as it ever was”?

edit: yes I’m aware corruption existed 100 years ago just as it exists today, I was just confused about people ignoring the written words of the post

Carlo,

Yeah, just poor reading comprehension across the board, I guess.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Or that the people of 1923 were not as informed as the people of 2023, so they could self delude enough to believe corruption was the exception and politicians were generally well-meaning except for a few profligates.

In 2023 we can actually do some research and see that by far the majority of them are rotten to the core and the few left have to condone it to some degree in order to negotiate with them. Much like law enforcement, in which there are violent, corrupt officers and those who are willing to lie in court to protect them. Everyone else has long since been ousted.

The non-white neighborhoods in the 1923s (including the Irish and Italian neighborhoods) would be able to tell you from experience that the corruption is through and through.

pandacoder,

Except Standard Oil has been broken up 13 years earlier and 1924 was smack in the middle of Prohibition and the illegal transportation of alcohol was called bootlegging. Both the breakup of Standard Oil and the alcohol ban are written down in legal documents, so we can confirm their existence wasn’t sensationalized.

Bootlegging would be the only part that could have been sensationalized, but I see how people drink today and I don’t think thousands of years of human behavior with alcohol was sensationalized, leading me to a conclusion that we as a society wouldn’t just give up alcohol for a decade, bootlegging was almost certainly not sensationalized.

If the contemporary context wasn’t the above, I might have agreed with the implication of sensationalization. Due to that contemporary context however it doesn’t read like that.

evranch,

leading me to a conclusion that we as a society wouldn’t just give up alcohol for a decade, bootlegging was almost certainly not sensationalized.

Today’s equivalent is the War on Drugs and while there’s a ton of hysteria and sensational coverage as well, it can’t be denied that drugs are HUGE business. Huge profit margins on cheap to produce, addictive products, with government enforcing strict restrictions on supply? It’s the same thing all over again.

We will study the meth epidemic in 100 years and say “how did the government decide this situation was better than the public having access to clean, legal prescription amphetamines?”

JoeKlemmer,

Everything old is new again.

Cfords,

1924 ??? Really ? The real date ?

doom_and_gloom, (edited )
@doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml avatar

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  • Lumun,
    @Lumun@lemmy.zip avatar

    Well said. The idea of progress can truly be a shackle. Your username is doomer but you don’t sound like a doomer!

    Jimmycrackcrack,

    Have any historians written back yet?

    VikingHippie,

    They tried, but turns out that anyone who was old enough to do “our times are the worst ones and the future will agree” takes 99 years ago have since shuffled off those mortal coils that seemed to chafe so much.

    treetop,

    “same bro lol”

    Catoblepas,

    Interesting, I feel like you see “grafter” basically not at all today in comparison with “grifter.”

    Sadbutdru,

    I still hear 'graft ’ as a noun to mean corruption/bribery her in the UK (tho it’s a bit old fashioned). But if you call someone a ‘grafter’ it usually means they’re good at physical labour.

    some_designer_dude,

    Or they’re good at attaching things to other things.

    stolid_agnostic, (edited )

    I love when people like to complain about how things were better before…before when?

    Black_Gulaman,
    @Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Before bacteria evolved, or so I read on that one web comic.

    wazoobonkerbrain,

    I love when people like to complain about glee things were better before…before when?

    Before the glee things went downhill.

    stolid_agnostic,

    Dang autocorrect.

    _number8_,

    YES YES are people gonna start posting old newspapers on here??

    explodicle,

    I hope in another 100 years, someone continues the joke on the comments posted today.

    VikingHippie,

    I just hope things have improved much more by theb

    partyparrot,

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  • TechLich,
    crossfadedragon,

    call it the late edition

    TheDoctorDonna,

    You just unlocked a memory. When I was a kid there was a show called Early Edition and the guy would get tomorrow’s newspapers and he had to try to change the headline before it happened. I don’t know how I forgot about that.

    crossfadedragon,

    That’s what I was thinking of when I made the suggestion 😁 it used to be on abc channel or maybe fox.

    TheDoctorDonna,

    Aw yay! Glad I wasn’t just being weird. Definitely has an ABC kind of feel to it, all wholesome and shit.

    Edit: Google says it was CBS.

    crossfadedragon,

    Oh yeah didn’t think of them. All those networks from back them kind of blend together for me

    Pons_Aelius,

    To quote Talking Heads: Same as it ever was.

    jasep,

    Yep Always has been 🔫

    Fracturedfox,

    Glad to see we’ve progressed in a hundred years time…

    (/s in case you missed it)

    Bonehead,

    Technically, we have made progress. The US is no longer known for bootlegging.

    NocturnalMorning,

    So we got that going for us I guess…

    BaroqueInMind,
    BaroqueInMind avatar

    Alcohol is a drug. Drugs dominate the markets; we export more drugs than any other country. Bootlegging never went away.

    Pons_Aelius,

    Yep, the bootleggers (drug sellers) are now legit.

    uriel238,
    @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I think the fentanyl crisis is significantly worse, and the US is known for poor quality alcoholic beverages (even when that reputation is undeserved).

    LifeInMultipleChoice,

    Alcohol I think mildly saves itself on accident too. For instance I had moonshine last night, made by a member of a local biker gang, not the stuff at the store labeled moonshine. Many of the makers charge quite a bit because it isn’t all that cheap to make unless you are mass producing. Generally that means you end up having other Alcoholic beverages with moonshine which the main issue with is methanol poisoning if not distilled properly. ( The methanol boils off at a lower temperature than the ethanol) So if they don’t distill it perfectly the methanol poisoning can set in, but one remedy for methanol poisoning is Ethenol. So if someone is drinking some moonshine and some actually produced by a legitimate company liqour on the side (shots of whiskey or such) they are actually fighting the impurity of the moonshine.

    Tb0n3,

    You see to have misinterpretted the opinion. They’re stating that the newspaper focuses on those things so much so that one would assume that’s the only thimg that matters. Much the same as today’s news media with their 24/7 focus on doom and gloom for the views and clicks.

    That is, or course, if you’re like the others who seem to interpret the opinion as a commentary on how the world truly was.

    Fracturedfox,

    If over the course of 100 years, nothing more newsworthy has prevailed to get people’s attention, that the doom and gloom of a century ago is the same as it is today, it’s saying something about the world in general that we haven’t changed. Should we have changed in 100 years? I’d like to think so, but as I get older I know that’s a pretty optimistic view of things.

    That author’s paragraph out of context could mean a lot of different things which we can leave up to each viewer to decide.

    Tb0n3,

    It’s blatantly obvious by just reading that it was a condemnation of the paper covering nothing but the worst.

    Fracturedfox,

    K

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