Phones should have 2 USB C ports

One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It’s a shame it’s not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it’s used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)

bitwolf,

I still keep a drawing of my ideal phone from years ago and I also has two ports like you mention. I totally agree!

ciko22i3,
@ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz avatar

can i see?

sounddrill,

And the 2nd one could go full thunderbolt too

MrTHXcertified,

You know what? As long as the second port isn’t gimped in any way (can do video out + all the typical USB things), then I might forgive them for taking away the headphone jack.

Oszilloraptor,
  1. I never understood why space should be at premium. A phone does not need to be as thin as possible. 1½-2cm thickness is reasonable in my eyes, and would allow so much more ports and/or buttons. I would have use for 2-3 extra buttons.
  2. The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable
altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

And most people add a bulky case anyway. Just integrate that shit into the phone!

CaptFeather,

The biggest pro of two opposing ports: you could always charge your device regardless of orientation. With just a port on the bottom charging while scrolling in the bed is often uncomfortable

This is my biggest problem with my switch! I have to awkwardly hold it when I’m trying to ay laying on the couch or in bed. I hear the Steam Deck has a port on top for charging so it’s already begun!

wolf,

Can confirm top port for the SteamDeck. Perfect for relaxed gaming while charging. :-)

nostradiel,

More likely dedicated camera shutter button.

rab,

Why? The volume button does this

biscuit,

The two-stage shutter button from Sony cameras and phones is something I miss dearly.

rab,

Half press focus?

Sounds neat, but phone sensor is so small and focal length is wide so even if you just mash the shutter immediately, pretty much everything is in focus anyway. I can see why they did away with it.

Racle, (edited )
@Racle@sopuli.xyz avatar

Double press power button to start camera, use volume up/down to take image.

Should work on almost any Android phone.

kale,

I jiggle my wrist to open my camera app. And chopping motion turns on the flashlight

scottywh,

Double pressing power pulls up Google assistant on my Motorola…

Racle,
@Racle@sopuli.xyz avatar

You can probably change that in settings.

dingus,

If you have a Motorola phone then you should just be able to twist your wrist to open the camera instead. Also chop to turn on the flashlight. I miss chop to flashlight the most when I switched away from Motorola.

scottywh,

Yes. Those actions work.

I wasn’t really looking for how to do it though.

I was just pointing out that the previous comment about double pressing power does not just work on any Android .

ShortFuse,

On my Pixel, I have long press of the power button for Assistant. Volume Up and Power brings up the power options which are rarely ever used.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Can USB hubs even allow the phone to be charged and simultaneously control things through the same port? I know I tried that back in the USB2 days and found it infuriatingly false, since had set up a wired USB mouse and game controller to my tablet for portable shooters. One particular hazard is I’ve found that combining bluetooth headphones and game controllers can result in unplayably-bad latency on Android, so wired options would be nice.

Telodzrum,

Yes they can and do. The pins are separate and power delivery is both faster and more efficient than it used to be.

Google,

I think yes. USB-C docks are the proof.

Futurama,

I agree with this idea. But it would make it harder to pick up your phone blindly and know which end is the top. I instinctively feel for the usb port on the bottom so it’s oriented correctly by the time my arm swings it into view.

arin,

The phone screen can rotate based on orientation. I can use it upside down and it’s fully functional

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

This sounds neat until you need to use the camera or actually phone somebody on it. Which end is the mic?

PotatoKat,

Idk about your phone, but my phone has a mic on both ends and a speaker on both (though the speaker placement is a bit different on the bottom than it is on top).

corytheboyd,
corytheboyd avatar

This is what life is when all viable phones are made by two giant tech companies.

Devgard,

random thing, the newly released Tab S9 series have 2 ports

Piers,

I agree. If we’re going to lose the headphone port in favour of connecting to a universal connection (either directly or via an adaptor) then it’s time we have two of them. As for positioning I gather that there are lots of handheld PC’s with the one on top and one on bottom configuration and that it’s generally accepted to be the best way (and my on top 3.5mm and on bottom USB-c seems to work pretty well) so I think you’re right but it would be nice to see manufacturers try out a few different configurations to see in practise what people prefer.

Hazdaz,

Soon you’re gonna feel lucky that your phone has even ONE port.

Give it 5 years and Apple will have removed their lightning and/or USB port and gone wireless on everything.

shotgun_crab,

Is wireless charging even possible?

delta,

Yes but it currently wastes a lot of electricity and doesn’t charge the phone as fast in general.

Hazdaz,

I’ve been wireless charging for a long time now. Does Apple not have wireless charging?

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

To give more details since somebody else gave you the short answer: Not only is it possible, most mid-to-high-end phones and all watches have that feature today. Google “Qi charging”, which is the modern global standard (although many devices are still on their own incompatible standards – Galaxy Watch, I’m looking in your direction).

Climinteedus,

Yeah, you set your phone on this pad, and it charges without being directly connected.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

On the plus side it’ll make waterproofing way easier. And ports are often the first thing to break on phones in my experience. Honestly my biggest disappointment will be the loss of the SIM slot, since e-SIMs give me the creeps. I like that my relationship to the cellular provider is on a part I can pop out.

Hazdaz,

Yeah gadget makers were able to water proof Walkmans back in the 80s and these were devices with probably a dozen real physical buttons, a headphone jack and battery compartment, and hinged wide open to let a cassette tape inside. Waterproofing as well as durable buttons was something that was solved decades ago regardless of what Apple’s marketing bullshit has led people to believe.

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Oh I agree but it’s obviously easier to waterproof a phone with ports. Besides that ports and buttons are the most common point-of-failure (I’m looking at my kid’s headphones on my desk where the power button was crushed in and my to-do list is to open it up and see if it’s repairable). Honestly my biggest complaint comparing the old Walkmen to modern phones isn’t the buttons and ports (I remember how miserable the buttons were on my 100-meter waterproof Casio watch back in the '80s) but rather the screws. I hate that glue has become a standard tool in electronics assembly. If I never have to do the gamble of the “hot enough to loosen the sealant but not to hot to damage it” dance with a heat-gun again it will be too soon.

Hazdaz,

Never stop from moving the heat gun. And getting a touchless laser thermometer can help to know what temp youre at.

AProfessional,

The worst part is AirDrop sucks. BT audio is still mediocre at best too.

Ingvarr,

Agree on Bluetooth audio but what are you on about, AirDrop works fine and I use it to push large files between my iPhone and my Mac all the time.

Hazdaz,

I’m sure Apple is working on some new wireless standard called “magic connect” or some shit like that. It will be 13.8% better but make all previous devices obsolete and incompatible pushing people to trash their old stuff and buy some new overpriced, proprietary stuff.

Then when they introduce this new standard, their next presentation slide will pat themselves in the back because they are such a “green” company.

figaro,

“Brave”

itsmaxyd,

Wireless is the future 🔮

HobbitFoot,

Apple is going to be compelled to offer USB-C as a wired charging connection in Europe if it offers a wired charging option.

Fogle,

Which means bye bye charging port

Rouxibeau, (edited )

The “if” is the kwy here. The rules said "if it has a port … it must be USB-C. They won’t have a port soon.

Pwnmode,

Apple itself or rumors have already shown they have thought about removing the port altogether.

Nijuu,

Well, if they are forced to bring back removable batteries which may be seem the case in a few years (unless they befuddle the EU authorities), they might have to bring back X if they remove it as well…

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m disappointed Moto Mods didn’t take off. They would’ve been a great way to provide a hermetically sealed phone with all the optional stuff you wanted slapped on the back. Beefier battery, better controls, all the ports you want, etc. Like, a phone with a weak internal battery but then a magnetically attached external one so you don’t even have to open open the back of the phone to hot-swap.

Send_me_nude_girls,

Never needed it but I could with wireless charging . Also I connect to my TV via Samsung Smart View, no USB required.

riotrick,

Just get some dongle like this if you need more ports.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ec708639-17b0-4394-8d20-effad78d0dea.jpeg

AnotherPerson,
@AnotherPerson@lemmy.world avatar

That looks like a a great way to torque the port and break the solder joint.

LucyLastic,

I very much like this idea, would be nice to be able to use a phone in more of a mini-computer manner, whereas at the moment they’re somewhat hamstrung.

I’m always surprised phone docks aren’t a thing, my work laptop has a USB-c dock that is bristling with ports that are useful.

DrQuint,

We could even… Charge twice!

kionite231,

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