matrix is calling you

Ultragigagigantic, 28 days ago

Matrix isn’t ready, but I love it.

I can’t order my channels the way I want!

haui_lemmy, 28 days ago

Thats a frontend issue, not a matrix issue.

DerArzt, 29 days ago

I would love to move off discord to matrix, but I fear I would quickly run into the issue that most of my group already is in Discord and would move apps just for one person.

haui_lemmy, 28 days ago

Totally relatable. Thats why we have chat bridges. You can use matrix with your matrix friends and have your friends talk to you over a bridge. This also helps them move because they wont lose anyone either. My bridge works for months without fail now.

I think tchncs.de runs bridges. Consider joining their matrix.

DerArzt, 28 days ago

Good to know!

s38b35M5, 28 days ago

While true, in the context of this news about discord being scraped, a bridge would not prevent the scraping, and would allow the matrix data (if the bridge is two-way) to also be scraped (which, come to think of it, if they can scrape discord, there’s every reason to believe they can scrape matrix as well).

haui_lemmy, 28 days ago

You‘re not totally wrong, but mostly.

Scraping discord can happen in infinitely many ways. From the proprietary bots (which you dont have in matrix) to the proprietary backend (which you dont have in matrix) to the frontend, which could be scraped by joining room after room with a bot or federating with a ton of servers and getting their public rooms, since everything else is encrypted or not visible for non invited people.

Yes, your data on both is visible but in matrix you have a ton more control over it than ok discord.

Saying discord is basically the same as matrix is showing that someone doesnt understand how chat software works.

null, 28 days ago

They didn’t say discord is basically the same as matrix though…

They said the problem is the same for both platforms in this context, which is true. Public posts can be scraped.

cyborganism, 29 days ago

How is Matrix safer? I haven’t looked at the service yet.

haui_lemmy, 29 days ago

Depends on your perspective I guess. For one, your data lays on your home server first and you actually have encrypted rooms if you want.

Somebody is definitely going to say that you can absolutely scrape matrix since it is federated which is correct. But you can make a private matrix server too if you want.

All in all, having no ads, no paywalls, control over your data, freedom in customization, e2ee, no way to ban you from your server or ban your server from the service.

I could probably find more but those are the most obvious imo.