Title. Genuine question. Intended for people owning cars. That’s all.
Edit: Thank you to everyone pointing out that my comments are rude and that I was being an asshole. I lost sight of the intention of this post. I will stop replying in the same manner.
Edit 2: imma downvote those comments I guess cuz there’s no karma fuck reddit
In the city where I live? Coverage from rain or cold weather, plus some privacy…and not much else really. Traffic jams scare me away from seriously considering a car for daily commute if I’m being honest.
But in this Texas suburb, it gets me from the store, to family, and potentially to my job if I get one that’s hybrid or in-office entirely. Travel radius is usually about 20 miles, tops.
We’re north of 100 degrees during the day so walking the concrete jungle is oppressive, biking will get me to a CVS, Home Depot, some things I don’t need to visit often and stroads don’t help.
Public transit is non-existent, taxi service would add up stupid fast, both would add stupid amounts of time, yee haw.
I like it for what i can throw in there. Would love to have a more walkable place so less idiot drivers being forced to drive but we gotta pick our battles.
Literally a requirement in most of the western United States, especially California. Everything is spread out too much. If you live in a small town without access to certain things, you need a car to go to a town that does because you may not even be able to use delivery services or taxis, or have a bus stop. And you’re not realistically gonna walk 30 miles there and another 30 back home.
Not dying riding a bicycle or walking down the highway at 430am to get to work everyday. I live in a small very rural area we literally don’t have public transport or bike lanes. Hopefully there will be alternatives one day but I’m not holding my breath.
The benefits to a car are self-evident. Ability to go anywhere you like on the schedule you like without need for excessive advance planning.
I'm absolutely a "fuckcars" advocate, but pretending there's NO benefits to owning one is insane. The problem isn't the cars themselves - it's that the REQUIREMENT of cars for basic life is AWFUL and as much as possible a car should be a special occasion, recreational use vehicle that you might use say, a few times a year for road trips, or maybe on weekends for personal exploration. The commute culture is how we get ridiculous traffic, excessive road construction, and most of the other unpleasant aspects of cars we hate in society.
But if say, 90% of the current drivers didn't have to do ANY daily driving and could walk or take public transportation instead, only using a car, say, once a week or less exclusively at their leisure rather than as a requirement? Car ownership would be MUCH more pleasant.
To put it more simply, a world where you MUST use a car all the time to go everywhere is incredibly inconvenient.
But by the same token, a world where you CAN'T use a car EVER to go ANYWHERE is ALSO incredibly inconvenient (Yes, I know plenty of people who will disagree with this, but usually even a cursory asking of places they've gone and things they've seen will reveal they're either cheating on the purity of their vision and getting rides somewhere, or there's a bunch of places they'd LIKE to go that they've just given up on, or desperately hope will SOMEDAY become viable destinations).
The best answer lies somewhere in-between - a car as an occasionally used recreational vehicle that complements a basic foundational lifestyle of walking, bikes, and a mix of public transportation.
Yea, I guess I need to work on that. I have made a few comments, though saying that car travel is required. To be clear, it’s mostly not the car drivers I’m mad at, it’s the dependent infrastructure. I’m sending good vibes with my responses.
Being able to just go anywhere you want. If I wanted to, I could hop in my car right now and be in the Rockies by Monday, doing an epic roadtrip. I can haul groceries and model train supplies without worry. I can pick up family members, I can go eat in the next town over, I can do all sorts of things.
Also, I have air conditioning. Even if I lived in a walkable city, Id still use my car because fuck 100+ degree heat and other bad weather.
Oops, I accidentally came in with a closed mindset. Sorry about that.
Honestly, I’m not good that I noticed. And clearly, so did others. It is kinda funny. I just see the need to reply to every comment in my inbox, and my brain goes into “CAR PEOPLE BAD” mode, when really, I’m mad at the way cities and neighborhoods are built. Sending good vibes with my messages, sorry if I came across as one-sided, my ego is at steak.
There are lots of reasons why the necessity of owning cars (particularly in the US) is unfortunate- bad for poor people, bad for quality of life, and bad for the environment.
that being said, asking questions is bad faith (ie asking just so you can tell them you think cars suck, and that living in the US sucks) is shitty behavior. Either go take your bullshit somewhere else, or actually try to foster reasonable discussion between folks of differing perspectives. You have the power to bring people together, foster community, and inform the perspectives of others. Don’t waste that power on condescending to others for dumb shit like whether they live in a country where cars are vital to most folk’s lives just so you can feel good about yourself as though you’ve accomplished anything other than mired an important topic of discussion in more toxicity than it already was.
The world has enough people being antagonist shitheads, there’s no reason you have to be one of them
I conveyed my point in a way that was probably a lot more harsh than appropriate, and I’d like to recognize that OP acknowledged and apologized having engaged in a way that wasn’t entirely in good faith without meaning to
Hey, props to you for being able to hear what I and others were saying and reflect, thats genuinely an incredibly difficult thing to do when critical comments on the internet almost always read as an attack. The emotional intelligence to reflect on your behavior when criticized by multiple faceless internet accounts is genuinely worth being very proud of ❤️
For my part, definitely could have conveyed my feelings less harshly, which is perhaps especially important when the person you’re speaking to will be hearing many many voices all at once and you’re just one of them. I let my frustration dictate how I conveyed my perspective and I’d like to apologize for that
Thank you for being willing to engage with me as a human despite my critical comment- this is what makes community, what builds common ground and respect among folks of differing perspectives. You’ve contributed very admirably to it by hearing folks’ critisisms and reflecting on how you might want to engage differently
Going to work is the difference between 15-20 minutes or 1 hour or longer with multiple bus changes.
Live in a place with shitty public transport and things being spread apart and unsafe drivers makes even bikes or motorcycles something I would not risk.
Aside from that benefit is in emergencies you can just leave right away without having to wait for someone to arrive at your destination, which I’ve had to do when I was taking care of a family member.
When you live in a place with crappy public transport no car means a loss of independence.
Why do all people think the public transport and bicycle thing is only in the US. I have lived in Belgium and Germany and both had pretty shit public transport and no things for bicycle so. A car is a good option then
Get where you need to go without having to wait on public transport or an uber. Leave when you want. Pick your route. If you decide to detour in the middle of your trip, you can if you own a car, for public transport you gotta wait for the next closest stop on the preselected route. Joy that comes from driving.
Say you need to go work and it takes 15 minutes by car. By bike takes 30 minutes. Great, very doable if weather allows.
But wait, you need to drop off and pick up your kids for whom you could only find a daycare spot somewhere that isn’t on you way to work. The shortest distance by bike forces you through the centre where other bike and school traffic means it takes another half hour on top of your journey. By car you could take a ring road so it only adds 7 minutes. (This road exists for bikes too, but since the difference in max speed with a bike it’d take even longer)
This is not even taking shopping into consideration. Or hobbies or visiting friends and family.
I’m all for reducing car usage and I try to do so when I can. But cars do have a purpose and free up a LOT of time for you to actually live your life with your family.
An ebike isn’t getting me to work. At least not in as timely fashion. And especially not in the snow, rain, or summer heat. Worse yet, it isn’t getting me home after being exhausted from working all day, or in the dark winter afternoons.
These aren’t as big of a problem as you’d think. At least try renting one with an open mindset to see if it is a viable option. If you mind me asking, what’s your profession?
If I didn’t have my pickup bed, I would have had to pay thousands of dollars to transport all I have in there. That doesn’t include the priceless memories it’s taken us to by just being able to randomly drive down a country road on a road trip. So many little know spots found just because I was able to explore new directions thousands of miles from my house thanks to my truck.
I love hiking. I’ve hiked many more miles because I was able to first kinda explore with my truck. I can go on. They might not be the best for the planet, but I’ve gotten to experience way more of it with one.
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