ChatGPT sees its first monthly drop in traffic since launch

According to the analytics firm’s report, worldwide desktop and mobile web traffic dropped by 9.7% from May to June, and 10.3% in the US alone. Users are also spending less time on the site overall, as the amount of time visitors spent on chat.openai.com was down 8.5%, according to the reports.

The decline, according to David F. Carr, senior insights manager at Similarweb, is an indication of a drop in interest in ChatGPT and that the novelty of AI chat has worn off. “Chatbots will have to prove their worth, rather than taking it for granted, from here on out,” Carr wrote in the report.

Personally, I’ve noticed a sharp decline in my usage. What felt like a massive shift in technology a few months ago, now feels like mostly a novelty. For my work, there just isn’t much ChatGPT can help me with that I can’t do better myself and with less frustration. I can’t trust it for factual information or research. The written material it generates is always too generic, formal, and missing the nuances I need that I either end up re-writing it or spending more time instructing ChatGPT on the changes I need than it would have taken me to just write it myself in the first place. Its not great at questions involving logic or any type of grey area. Its sometimes useful for brainstorming, but that is about it. ChatGPT has just naturally fallen out of my workflow. That’s my experience anyway.

NewEnglandRedshirt,
@NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world avatar

School is out. Fewer kids asking if for homework help

pavnilschanda,
@pavnilschanda@lemmy.world avatar

Meanwhile because school is out, they seek out character-based chatbots like character.ai, probably one of the reasons there was a server outage recently.

Rhaedas,
Rhaedas avatar

The generic ChatGPT is far too error-prone and limited compared to the many variations of other GPTs out there. It was a fad for those who weren't going to fine tune a use that worked well or are doing actual research in better tactics. How many who are knowledgeable on computer systems have moved to smaller locally installed versions that work just as well or better?

Zeth0s,

What local models are you using that are better? Not trying to argue, honest interest

Rhaedas,
Rhaedas avatar

There are a number of them now, but I've put the Vicuna 13B one on my Windows side before. Trying to get it on Ubuntu so it can use the GPU, but it's being difficult. Look up TheBloke on github, they have a large selection that can be used through the text-generation UI coding.

I may have misspoke saying "better", as it looks like it's a few percentages below on comparisons. I thought I had seen some varieties of local compared that rated higher though, such as on AI Explained's channel.

Zeth0s,

Thanks! I tried vicuna, but I didn’t find it very good for programming. I will keep searching :)

Rhaedas,
Rhaedas avatar

I didn't either, actually. It seems to me that where LLMs excel is in situations where there will be a large consensus of a topic, so the training weights hit close to 100%. Anyone who has read through or Googled for answered for programming in the various sources online has seen how among the correct answers there are lots of deviations which muddy the waters even for a human browsing. Which is where the specialized training versions that hone down and eliminate a lot of the training noise come in handy.

Raymonf,

I’ve been using it a lot less recently because GPT-4 has just been spitting out gibberish code. They really nerfed it.

marcar,

Could it be as simple as the official ChatGPT apps being released for iOS and Android, so more people have moved to the apps?

keenkoon,

does it have an android app?

PoorlyWrittenPapyrus,

They completely banned it at my job, I’m willing to bet some companies are banning it.

Especially frustrating because we work very closely with Microsoft and have a team specifically for helping our clients develop applications with AI.

astanix,

Not only is it banned from my work, they have banned anything even close to AI. Even deepL is blocked and I need to translate things for my job daily. Google and Bing aren’t blocked so I could still use their AI if I was going to use AI but that’s not what I’m even trying to do lol.

DeepL is just the best at translating business related language things. Google does a decent job at it anyway…

poo,
poo avatar

I can see where they're coming from in terms of security, but that sounds a bit harsh.

At least where I work, we're told basically "use it if you want, just be prepared for it to be wrong and double check everything it tells you" which sounds a little more reasonable IMO

PoorlyWrittenPapyrus,

Ironically, security isn’t a concern at all. With our relationship with Microsoft, we can use the Azure OpenAI API which, despite my own strong personal distrust in Microsoft, still meets all of our privacy and security standards. We trust Microsoft as much as we do our internal teams.

The concern is mostly legal/copyright related, as they’re worried any code or documents that come out of it could be considered copyrighted.

poo,
poo avatar

Wow that's a very protective stance to take! Good reason though. There's probably enough people out there actually copy + pasting the code that gets spit-out to have to worry about that. I try to only use ChatGPT to figure out syntax or get a high-level understanding of an approach to doing something, without having to scour the web for documentation.

Zeth0s,

I find that recently the effort needed to get the “right” answer is much more than in the past for gpt-4. That’s my impression. At the end I am finding myself more often going back to google, stack overflow, manuals, medium…

I believe they distilled the model to much for performances, or the rlhf is really degrading the model performances

CarlsIII,

The fact that you have to double-check the answers anyway is a pretty big sign that it’s not useful for finding information.

Zeth0s,

I used mainly for programming support, brainstorming on techs and libraries, and to refine technical documentation. But support for programming is becoming a bit of a pain honestly…

ultranaut,

I use it for help with relatively simple scripting at least once a month and it’s become noticeably dumber recently. I find it’s a lot more obnoxious to interact with and generally just isn’t as useful as it was a month or two ago.

catagris,

I have noticed what they call Chatgpt alpha is much better than 3 ever was

Zeth0s,

Same experience. It is also increasingly ignoring instructions, always ends up with similar answers whatever the request is formulated. It’s a pity

m0nky,

I think I have one of the few use cases that it is still useful for. I write textbook materials, the ability to have chatgpt write a short piece of writing saves me a lot of time. For example, ‘write an 80 word passage for a 2nd grade A1 esl learner about visiting grandma. Use the present simple tense.’

Or, make ten cause and effect sentences involving animals that live in the forest.

But even with those very simple prompts, I have to check it and usually ask it to change some vocabulary.

However, if I ask it to do anything with logic or even slightly complicated, it can’t do it, so I always wonder what the heck people are using it for.

For example, ‘list all the elephant and piggie books and fly guy books in order of AR level’

It can’t do it. Thats a pretty basic task, but it gets it completely wrong.

Nepenthe,
Nepenthe avatar

For example, ‘write an 80 word passage for a 2nd grade A1 esl learner about visiting grandma. Use the present simple tense.’

Or, make ten cause and effect sentences involving animals that live in the forest.

But even with those very simple prompts, I have to check it and usually ask it to change some vocabulary.

That's been my experience with AI as a language learner. Maybe it's made worse because my target is one of the lesser used languages, but I think it's really just not there yet.

Tried to trip it up with synonyms and it had a 10% hit rate, so that was worrying. Asking it how to order a plain coffee predictably netted me a phrase that translated to whithered café. Then it failed basic questions about colors.

If I'm going to google it, might as well google it. I think most of my use with AI language learning would be having a sentence to fact check.

m0nky,

As a language teacher, I am not concerned in the slightest. Actually, I think we will be one of the last jobs standing in the war with AI due to the complexities and fluid nature of language. Couple that with the human element of teaching, after all, language is means of communication with people, not robots, and I am confident.

Lots of people disagree though, so I could well be wrong. We will see.

Call_Me_Maple,

there just isn’t much ChatGPT can help me with that I can’t do better myself and with less frustration. I can’t trust it for factual information or research

This mixed with the constant reprimanding and moral instruction just makes it so frustrating. I’m not asking for no filter, but it’s gotta be more lenient if they want it to be a good and useful tool. I am so over reading “It is important to remember…” because it misunderstood a prompt.

exohuman,
exohuman avatar

I see this becoming more of an advanced “auto-complete”. It really shouldn’t be authoring anything, but instead work with software to make suggestions on how to improve human generated work.

Also, for software development it is a minefield. They train the AIs on code from GitHub and other projects and then suggest it back to users in violation of the license the code was built with.

Rhaedas,
Rhaedas avatar

That's exactly what a LLM is, an advanced autocomplete using a huge training database to determine the probabilities. It never was anything more, even with the unexpected characteristics from further development. The models that are being fine-tuned for their training (stepping them back to a more narrow field LLM) do a lot better than a general purpose one.

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