I’m not an egg anymore, but I found this meme I made several years ago when looking through an old hard drive and wanted to put it on Lemmy.
Image description: Top text says “Me: 100% totally cis male.” Bottom text says “Also me: A girl with girl stuff and girl hair and girl clothes.” The bottom part is actually an image of a Minecraft skin that is posted on Planet Minecraft.
I think what they mean is that trying to argue that a person playing a girl character makes them a girl, regardless of their identity is the part they don’t agree with. I agree with them on that (if that is the case) I do not believe that actions by a person can make one semantically trans, I believe (as do most decent people) that the way a person identifies is what determines gender identity, and trying to go against that is hurtful and invalidating.
I acknowledge that this meme is a person calling themselves out, but it sets a chilling precedent for invalidating Gender Non-conforming people, who almost certainly will do things like this that step way outside of gender stereotypes, yet they still fully identify as male. It invalidates them because it’s in a sense saying that their actions make the way they identify invalid, that’s what saying someone is trans in-denial does, it invalidates their current identity based on their actions.
@Lumelore Yeah, the toxic femboy is a transphobe classic... Either a toxic egg, or a case of toxic masculinity making him hate his femmy side... Either way, fuck that, I've no time for that shit any more...
Hate my femmy side? I’m literally dressed fem right now. You shouldn’t always assume the worst in people, it’s really not helpful, and ends up making you look bad.
Uh no, I’m not. I’m pointing out how trying to argue that actions semantically define a person’s gender identity is invalidating to a person’s identity. For example arguing that a male identifying person who dresses and acts fem is an egg, or that a transfem person who dresses, acts and presents masc is “faking it”. Both cases are invalidating to a person’s identity. I’m saying that egging is another form of invalidation because if we’re going to say that people’s gender identity is valid by identification we shouldn’t say that the gender the person is invalid because they aren’t behaving in ways that match the stereotypes. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.
It’s just a meme I made like 3 or 4 years ago because I saw a skin on pmc with a funny name. I really didn’t put that much effort into it. This has a CW for assuming the viewer is transfem because I am transfem and it’s from my perspective when I was an egg. Also I don’t think this meme at all invalidates gender non-conforming people who identify as male. Just because it was intended for a different audience, it doesn’t mean they don’t exist or are invalid. Would making a meme like this targeting gender non-conforming people who identify as male invalidate trans women?
I think what they mean is that trying to argue that a person playing a girl character makes them a girl, regardless of their identity is the part they don’t agree with.
I agree with your statement, playing as a girl character is not what makes you irl a girl. However, this meme isn’t about the character you play as. It’s about the amusing title that the Minecraft skin has, and it’s not a skin I made, so I didn’t choose the title.
It invalidates them because it’s in a sense saying that their actions make the way they identify invalid, that’s what saying someone is trans in-denial does, it invalidates their current identity based on their actions
You do realize that is egg_irl, right? This whole community is about being trans in-denial.
and also kinda reinforces gender stereotypes
I feel like this meme does the exact opposite. Top text essentially says “On the surface I’m a guy” and bottom text essentially says “but actually I’m a girl”. At least to me that doesn’t seem cisnormative.
I agree with your statement, playing as a girl character is not what makes you irl a girl. However, this meme isn’t about the character you play as. It’s about the amusing title that the Minecraft skin has, and it’s not a skin I made, so I didn’t choose the title.
Ah Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought it was about a person being a girl because they like to play as one. Which obviously isn’t right. A person is a girl because they identify as one. I also wasn’t aware that you didn’t make the skin, that is kind of funny.
You do realize that is egg_irl, right? This whole community is about being trans in-denial.
Yeah, I was misunderstanding the meme as saying that a person who does X (X being playing as a girl) is automatically trans-in-denial by the action, rather than admitting to having been in-denial in the past. I say this meaning that a person shouldn’t be told that they are in-denial because ultimately people need to come out when they are ready and you can’t always tell if someone is or isn’t, basically Egg Prime directive.
I feel like this meme does the exact opposite. Top text essentially says “On the surface I’m a guy” and bottom text essentially says “but actually I’m a girl”. At least to me that doesn’t seem cisnormative.
Again operating under the idea that the incorrect idea that the meme was about how people breaking gender stereotypes are that gender they’re presenting as. Cisnormative was probably not the right word. I’m stupid and not always good with words.
The meme isn’t about playing a game as a girl, although I can see how people think that. I made it because I found the name of that skin to be amusing.
I won’t make excuses, I do it because I like the feminine aesthetic, I think it looks cute. I don’t really know if feminine characters give an advatage in some games or not.
fun story: way back when i was younger (i dunno like 8-13) i used to have this velvet red dress that i absolutely loved wearing when i did anything even though i didnt know what trans was.
When I was younger I always played all my games as a boy, but in every single one I hated the way my character looked. The few times I did play as a girl I really liked it. I’m also astonished at myself for not realizing sooner lol.
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