kobold,

i know someone i used to work with who went there because he was effectively their employee bc of how much he contributed via open source and in community

capitalism bullshit strikes again

jherazob,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar

Was considering Vault but yeah, no. I hope there’s a good alternative

wiki_me,

People might not like this change, but if it helps them makes money that gets put back into the project maybe that is a good thing (for those who does not know, it converts to a open source license after four years), maybe that is better then a open core model.

Zapp,

Yeah. I’ve always thought timed open source was probably a sweet spot, but I don’t have a lot of trust that companies will actually follow through on the open license at the end, so it doesn’t buy my goodwill just yet.

wiki_me,

IANAL but don’t think they can opted out of it , it’s part of the license

Effective on the Change Date, or the fourth anniversary of the first publicly available distribution of a specific version of the Licensed Work under this License, whichever comes first, the Licensor hereby grants you rights under the terms of the Change License, and the rights granted in the paragraph above terminate.

Zapp,

Neat.

tupcakes,
@tupcakes@midwest.social avatar

Fuuuuuuu. I really liked nomad.

Apinae,

Time to use an open alternative!

chunktoplane,

Wow, they’re gambling a lot that people won’t migrate to a FOSS fork.

g5pw,

Aw man… and I was just thinking about deploying Nomad in my homelab…

vojel,

Did you read the post from them? You are not affected.

ck_,

That is a rather short sighted interpretation of what is happening I feel. Essentially the company is moving from FLOSS to “free as in beer”, which will very likely affect the product in the long run.

julianwgs,

Not quite, it‘s only restricting competitors and so all companies and home labbers can still use it for free and contribute as in free speech.

However this can bring a lot more financial sustainability to a project. I don‘t know the specifics, but the main problem is that companies make profit of the software, but don’t invest enough money back into the product. This cannot be good for users. Open source must be financially stable.

Also right now all those competitors (and users) can create a fork and maintain it. So it is up to the community what will happen to the project.

g5pw,

Sure, but it’s a question of principle. I try to use and support FLOSS software if possible.

vojel,

This is your choice of course.

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Not affected today, many businesses were started from home. We already know it’s not possible any more to build a business using hashicorp products as they could pivot at any moment and then you’d be “competing” and in breach of license.

vojel,

Yes but is that affecting you businesswise, for example using terraform for proviosioning infrastructure for a customer? As far as I understand this move it affects companies like gruntwork who makes a business on top of terraform with terragrunt. Dont get me wrong, I do dislike this change also but saying „it is not open source anymore“ is just wrong. It is still open source but its usage changed for companies making a dollar here or there with technologies they dont develop.

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It is still open source but its usage changed for companies making a dollar here or there with technologies they dont develop

That’s not open source.

vojel,

It is. You mix free software and open source, their often but not always the same.

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

opensource.org/osd/

  1. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups

The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.

opensource.org/licenses/

vojel,

I see no discrimination here lol. Look up licenses and stop dreaming.

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Stop shilling proprietary licenses in this community.

  1. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.

Also go look up the word discrimination.

Illecors,

Do you have access to the source code?

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I started using terraform a few weeks ago…

ck_,

Switch over to pulumi, it’s essentially the same thing

www.pulumi.com

SwingingKoala,
@SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The reason I went with terraform is really because of the demand on the job market. Oh well, if I have never done that in the past and am still doing fine 🤷

ck_,

Then you are good either way. All of the IaC tools generally revolve around the same principles, they just express them in different ways. Learning terraform is definitely not a waste, you’ll be able to transfer what you learned to other tools like pulimi, CDK or what have you pretty easily.

If you were to buy into a technology for a long time project, then I’d encourage you giving the alternatives a closer look.

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