malchior,

The game is a solid 7 maybe 8. The performance is absolute garbage, but the underlying game is pretty good. Mods will do the heavy lifting as usual.

Foreplaying,

Modders could make starfield in skyrim and imo it’d be a better game.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Doubt.

WereCat,

Someone took whelming and placed it above the game

Spaceinv8er,

Man some people just can’t be pleased. I’ve been playing the game all week, and it’s fantastic. It delivered exactly what I thought it was going to be.

Sure there are some bugs, and some complaints about a few minor things, but as a whole this game is spot on.

I’m just not sure what people are expecting. It’s Fallout/Skyrim in space, and it’s exactly what I thought it was going to be.

Psythik, (edited )

I agree that it’s a fun game – about what I expected as well (no bugs for me, though) – but my major issue with the game is that the lore is so damn boring. Unlike in past titles like New Vegas and Oblivion, I find myself skipping through the dialogue in this one so that I can go back to enjoying the game. The game doesn’t give me any reason to care about these various factions and their internal drama. Nobody ever has anything interesting or funny to say in Starfield ever. I never once felt the need to dig deeper into the lore like I do with Fallout, reading timelines and listening to developer insight and whatnot. I just skip skip skip.

Also there’s the fact that space travel is done almost entirely through menus. The only time you actually have to fly your ship is during dogfights.

If it weren’t for those two things, this would be a 9/10 game for me. I love the massive cities, how many mods there are already, and gunplay is satisfying once you tweak the damage values to make everyone less of a bullet sponge (Including yourself). Can’t wait to see what the future holds for this game once we start getting DLC and story mods.

Katana314,

I just did a quest where the New Frontier and the UC put aside their differences in war to fight a common enemy. The dialog was all touching and mused on the equality of each soldier in a war.

Meanwhile I’m over here like “Dude, I have no honest idea what dumb reason there is that you two idiots are even at war with each other, and you’re writing the dumbest WW1 Christmas story I’ve heard.”

echo64,

tbf this is pretty par for the course with Bethesda, the writing just isn’t good. The people that wrote Morrowind and most of Oblivion left half way through Oblivion, from what I remember Todd Howard did not get along with the writers at all.

Everything ever since has been just, well it’s been there. Todd is more interested in spectacle and exploration than writing. And unfortunately that’s been incredibly successful for him

MartinXYZ,

When is the next Mass Effect coming out?

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Not soon enough 😭 Probably won’t be what we want from it anyways, they’ll take all the worst parts of Andromeda and leave the good on the cutting room floor, somehow.

MartinXYZ,

I fear you’re right, but as long as the franchise is alive there’s a chance they make it right some day.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I’d love it if the franchise had an XCOM style entry.

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I’m having fun zooming around the galaxy as a tough bounty hunter/vanguard. Has all the good bits of Fallout (exploring abandoned buildings, weapon variety, base building etc). I swear people are not even playing the same game with how they describe it.

hyperhopper,

I think you mean pressing buttons in menus to teleport across the galaxy

Pheonixdown,

Yeah, you’re right, they need a “fast travel to tracked quest next location” button so I don’t have to futz with the menus. But at least I’m not arbitrarily waiting several minutes to get to fun whenever I have to go somewhere.

waxsta,

You can fast travel to tracked quest location, I think as long as it’s not a new location. On Xbox you open the main menu/wheel thing, hover over the quests option at the bottom and just press x.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

To me it’s less about the user reviews, and more about how as now some time is passing, listening to professional reviewers in podcasts etc, more and more the mood turns… tepid?

It’s not that anyone is underwhelmed. More just… whelmed.

Kit,

I’m 20 hours in and not having a good time. Feels like I’m forcing myself to play instead of looking forward to it.

It’s just… bland. There’s no memorable characters, no breathtaking worlds, no addictive gameplay loops or memorable story. Just go here, fight pirates, click on one thing, 30 seconds cutscene of talking, repeat.

I really, really want to love Starfield but I just don’t get it.

taanegl,

There’s something I’d like to call “the Bethesda” bar. It’s basically an industrial bar lower than most. Let’s define what that means:

  • releasing the same game over and over
  • make games so buggy that a release with only a couple hundred of glitches is deemed "polished*
  • ignore progressive development for things like NPC AI
  • put all the money in marketing and hype
  • make the user think they’re getting something new, rather than just another boilerplate game

I’m sure the story writers did some characters justice, but I won’t be playing this game - especially since Bethesda claims it “can’t run on older hardware”, despite the fact that modders are proving them wrong.

The Betheada bar is a cancer upon the industry and I view it as consumer facing psy-ops, relying on brain-dead fanboys with nothing going on in their lives to squeal with glee as a new AAA-title is released to fill that void.

simple,

Ah yes the “everyone who likes something I don’t like is a brainless zombie” argument, coming from someone who doesn’t like Bethesda and hasn’t even played the game.

hyperhopper,

It’s the same game as the last several Bethesda games, no need to play it to criticize it.

But even watching a few streams and videos is really enough to see even the harsh criticisms are putting it mildly.

simple,

It’s obviously vastly different in so many aspects. You realize that Fallout 4, their last mainline game, was 8 years ago?

DingoBilly,

No, it’s just an overhyped game that doesn’t deliver.

Boiglenoight,

It’s janky as hell, but the game I’ve played the most this year. Take that for what you will.

iheartneopets,

I mean… Have you played many others?

AssPennies,

They played some minesweeper for 10 minutes.

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

It’s crack for my brain

thorbot,

I am really enjoying it. The emergent story-lines that have cropped up just from me doing stuff is great. Having to really focus my skill points into perks forces me to stick with a play style and the gunplay and upgrades are fantastic. I love just fucking off to some random corner of the galaxy and finding a whole entire storyline to explore. Yes, the lack of low orbit flying is glaring since I played a lot of NMS but the story telling here is top tier and I just keep wanting to go back and play. Even now, I am just writing this one comment and then I am off to betray the Crimson Fleet >:)

SkyNTP, (edited )

Starfield has fantastic art direction and ambience. The gunplay is really good, perhaps the best gunplay of any RPG, and a surprise coming from Bethesda. Story hits some good beats, and exploration is rewarding, though repetitive about 50% of the time in the typical Bethesda fashion (remember Draugr crypts?).

That being said, the game has some shortfalls, primarily in the roleplay aspect. The ship building and crew management is good, but it doesn’t feel great, and is sometimes just frustrating, so you never feel truly immersed in your own ship. Lack of low earth orbital and terrestrial flight is immersion breaking (even if players might opt to skip it if it were present) along with the fact that the ship is relegated to being a flying mule and most transportation is basically instant teleportation via menus, which IMO hurts the isolation and exploration RP and challenge. Ship combat is straight up mediocre for a space game in 2023. Gun selection and modding is decent, but far from top tier. I would describe the apparel as a bit on the bland side, few of the clothes and armor pickups made me go: I want to put this on, I’ll look badass (Cyberpunk 2077 syndrome).

In fact I think starfield shares a lot with Cyberpunk 2077: massive budget, AAA art direction with gameplay spread across so many systems and features that a lot of them leave you wanting more.

totallymojo,

The gunplay is really good

Is it really though…?

newthrowaway20,

I was just thinking this. The gunplay is serviceable.

zipzoopaboop,

It’s it bombing of it’s a bad game?

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

But it’s not a bad game

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Being middling is worse than being bad. At least bad things get remembered for their badness. Nothing mediocre gets remembered.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

But it’s not a middling game either. I’m having a blast.

WintLizard,
@WintLizard@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’m enjoying the game and having fun but I also have a long list of complaints. #1 for me right now is not having the right dialogue options. First bethesda rpg where a character can ask me if something is a good idea and there is no option to tell them no!

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Damn even the outer worlds had that.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I got Outer Worlds because of all the talk about it having more choice than Fallout 4 and didn’t find that to be true at all. It was largely the same with nothing but Yes, No, and Not Now options.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I disagree, every potential option for betrayal or aligning with one cause versus another in any given scenario was just as good as any other Bethesda game.

The narrative was tighter and not as open world, but I liked the art design a lot and gameplay well enough.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I disagree, every potential option for betrayal or aligning with one cause versus another in any given scenario was just as good as any other Bethesda game.

That’s what I was saying tho. It was only just as good as any other Bethesda game; but it was being praised for being so much better than that.

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