NounsAndWords,

Somewhere around 20 years ago/b/ was one of the first aggressively “us vs them” communities I was ever exposed to, and it only got worse from there.

Rai,

You’re crazy, /b/ wasn’t around 20 years ago… I mean, it only recently started in the early ‘00s!

…oh no

lemmyseizethemeans,
ComradeChairmanKGB, (edited )
@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Capitalism is tearing me apart Lenin!

irmoz,

Damn straight, homie stumbled upon alienation and commodity fetishism all at once

MrSnowy,

Hot take: corporatism and infotainment. You control money and information, you control the world.

TheBurlapBandit,

This is the coldest take on Lemmy. Not that it’s wrong, though.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Pitchshifter warned us.

DJKJuicy,

The 90s industrial/nu metal band?

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Industrial then switched genres to Industrial Punk, but yeah.

DJKJuicy,

Neat. Just was not at all expecting to see Pitchshifter in this discussion. (sorry I called them nu metal, felt strange to me too)

Yeah, I guess they did warn us. I didn’t really grasp the lyrics when I was younger. Even RATM was lost on me until I hit my 30s…

MadSurgeon,

I’m safe in the knowledge that we’ll all be saved.

ComradeChairmanKGB,
@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml avatar

? By who?

Cruxifux,

Man I used to have the dopest pitchshifter wife beater when I was 18

Madison420,

Nope education is the downfall. Teach critical thinking well and you won’t have such a malleable idiotic population that buys into either of those.

TrismegistusMx,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

Education was destroyed by the same people who forced corporate news down our throats.

Madison420,

Correct, but one had to go before the other.

artaxthehappyhorse,
@artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s maybe a part, but not the whole story.

Your (and your parents’, and your peers’) real and perceived economic circumstances and opportunities have a lot to do with what you’ll value and prioritize as an adult - how invested and loyal you’ll be in society. Every poor person we generate due to greedy decisions has a very high likelihood of being a destructive force back to us.

Now consider how many poor people were generated by black slavery, segregation, and explicit racism in America, and how, in a society, we all just swim around in the same trauma soup, deflecting pain towards one another.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX,

as an adult

That’s an interesting way to frame things.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Now consider how many poor people were generated by black slavery, segregation, and explicit racism in America, and how, in a society, we all just swim around in the same trauma soup, deflecting pain towards one another.

That’s a nice thought 😳

Madison420,

Imo greed is an lack of education. As education is ideally schooling +life experience. Part of that critical thinking section needs to be taught by experience and society in the us at least didn’t give anyone enough time to see the world before deciding what to do, how to live and what kind of person you want to be.

superkret, (edited )

Education has been fully taken over by Capitalism. For profit schools and “public schools” which are bound by the same economical principles provide an education that’s solely geared towards producing new employees.

Soundhole,

Public education wasn’t necessarily “taken over”. It was only ever “allowed” by the rich because they needed trained people to count their fucking money (oversimplifying. Sort of).

Teachers push actual critical thinking in their classrooms and the oligarchs hate that, which is why they try to crush teachers at every turn.

davel,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Almost none of my well educated professional-managerial class peers have developed class consciousness. They seem to be even more class clueless than blue & pink collar workers.

Madison420,
Bloobish,

It’s literally just capitalism, Marx called this alienation under capital

irmoz,

Capitalism

GarbageShoot,

Major media bodies are owned by corporations or the state, and the state is also owned by corporations, so they functionally control all of it. QED Socialism or barbarism.

Facky,

Corporatism=literally capitalism

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