mysk,
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EU businesses are busy preparing their customers to deal with broken in 17.4.

"Therefore, our clear recommendation is to perform tests with the Beta version of iOS 17.4"

In fact, developers outside the can't test.

@cyclingfisch

https://community.neptune-software.com/topics/news/blogs/p-w-as-on-i-phones-within-the--e-u---our-findings-and-r

mysk,
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Many EU businesses outsource web development to developers in countries outside the EU. should provide a method for non-EU developers to test or simulate the behavior of PWA apps as if they were EU users. Especially because Apple didn't allow developers much time before announcing this breaking change.

@cyclingfisch

voxpelli,
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@mysk @cyclingfisch Isn’t it just “installed web apps will now open in browser instead”? So test the PWA in the browser and it will work like in EU?

cyclingfisch,

@voxpelli @mysk @cyclingfisch no, not if the PWA used e.g. offline features. As written in my blog post, push notifications are also not working anymore

voxpelli,
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@cyclingfisch @mysk Push notifications are a direct consequence of installable web apps being removed, no? There’s nothing removed from PWA:s running in the browser as far as I have heard?

cyclingfisch,

@voxpelli @mysk there are other consequences like the missing offline capabilities and the consequence that all local data will be deleted after seven days without touching.

voxpelli,
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@cyclingfisch @mysk

  1. Service Workers will still be around and still support offline mode in the browser? Just like it does now? No?
  2. Persistent storage can still be requested and uses heuristics to allow that just like it does on eg Chrome. The difference is that Chrome does not delete local data of unvisited sites
mysk,
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@voxpelli @cyclingfisch The apps do open as normal websites, but developers outside the EU should be able to test that themselves. The cache is acting very weirdly. I will be testing on the Release Candidate and check if that has been fixed. I will publish a video about that.

voxpelli,
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@mysk @cyclingfisch Is some of the cache and data carrying through form the installed PWA to the browser? That would be odd and unprecedented on iOS?

mysk,
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@voxpelli @cyclingfisch Yes, the browser and all "bookmarks" added to the Home Screen share the same storage. But this is expected, because they are just bookmarks. I wasn't able to clear the cache. Nothing worked.

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