Tags are essential in the Fediverse because there's no algorithm here. No "suggested" follow or posts. Post ( I'm talking about microblogging mostly) appear in chronological order solely. So if you want to search for toots/posts/microblogs of an specific topic, or connect with people that share a similar interest with you (outside of communities/magazines/groups), tags are the only option.
You're confusing something. Hashtags matter because there is neither a global nor an instance-level full-text search on many platforms (especially Mastodon), only one for your own "storage" (timeline, favs, bookmarks, boosts). Lemmy and kbin have an instance-level full-text search, though.
As long as one person follows the author or discovered a post, it becomes visible via its hashtags to everyone on the same server. That's why you receive a warning if you write an unlisted post with hashtags, since they wouldn't work.
What you refer to as algorithm would be applied afterwards. It would collect, sort, filter, or transform those discovered posts according to settings or a generated profile (another algorithm).
1- I'm talking about the common usage of tags on the fediverse. Hashtags are used here because they allow users to search (micro or macro or photo) blog posts by topic. Some platform even allow you to follow Hashtags.
2- I specifically say I was talking about microbloggin-style platforms (although I think it also applies to macroblog and photoblog ones to), and not to the threadiverse. What Hashtags can do is make things easy for post on the threadiverse (both thread-like discussions and Kbin micriblogs) to be searchable and easier to access for users of other type of federated platforms. But they play a more important role in microblogging platforms like Mastodon, Misskey and Pleroma.
3- I know what I'm calling algorithm. There's no content algorithm here. when you follow someone the content they post appears chronologically in your timeline regardless how much you interact with them. When someone you follow likes or otherwise interacts with a post it will appear in chronological order in your timeline, regardless of the level of interaction between you, your follow and the person who tooted the content. Any content you interact with appears in your Local (server) and Bubble ("friend" servers) timelines (and your/their Home timelines) and are accessible to members of these servers in the order they were posted*.
There's no algorithm suggesting content similar to the one you interact the most with.
*Of course, this also applies also to the Global/Federated timeline.
Tags are essential in the Fediverse because there’s no algorithm here.
That's your first sentence and what my reply was about. And you just confirmed what I wrote. Hashtags help you search because there are few other options while what algorithms are able to suggest is based on the data they're aware of.
Because there's no "algorithm" in the way they exist in tiktok, twitter, etc. It's pretty clear that I'm referring to what most people call "the algorithm", not about the technical aspect of what an algorithm is.
There isn't any type of compilation of interaction that create a kind of suggested timeline, and blog posts appear in chronological order and not by how much you interact with its poster/booster.
Following hashtags on Pleroma, Mastodon, etc creates something similar to a "for you" timeline, even though the posts still appear in the order they were posted/boosted
Tags are a way to help spread the microblog or thread type into the fediverse and searchable as well. While on mastodon, I can see a microblog or thread post type of article, link, etc, it'll show the tags, but the posts do not appear in the same tagged way a post from mastodon with a tag does. I think this is a bug for now.
If you are on a Mastodon instance and follow a kbin.social user for example, you will see their posts and comments to on kbin and can interact still on the same thread in kbin for example.
They are more of a concept coming from mastdodon type of posts.
But currently there are no lists or possibilities to subscribe to them here.
So you/we can use them and navigate but with certain limitations.
For my liking kbin is lacking lists so that not all follows have to be seen mixed in a single place.
In such lists if they existed it would be awesome that there could be subscriptions to both communities and tags.
True, but I think they make it easier to find posts originating here on kbin using say Mastodon.
There is also a difference between Posts and Articles here which I haven't fully fathomed - I think perhaps articles are more Mastodon compatible, while posts are more aligned with Lemmy... But hopefully somebody more enlightened will provide more detail and/or correct me there!
In some cases, literally mastodon content. If you are on mastadon and you put @magazine in your post, it shows up on that magazines microblog, on kbin, at least.
Hm yeah seems so, so an article can be read on kbin, lemmy, and mastodon... while a post will be in kbin microblog and mastodon but not lemmy? And the other threads are on lemmy too
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