hddsx,

Can we PLEASE post these types of posts to a Reddit-centric community? This has absolutely nothing to do with lemmy.world.

indetermin8,

Anyone else here entertained that this is a meme from a movie where they decided to stop paying someone to send the message that they were fired?

pacology,
@pacology@lemmy.world avatar

This is an interesting idea. Reddit was created at a time when creator monetization wasn’t super common (beside ads on a blog).

Now, with tictok and the like, revenue sheeting with creators isn’t that weird.

I can’t just wait for the karma mining options to begin. Maybe people could repurpose their bitcoin mining rigs to run LLMs to create new memes. After all, they were trained on Reddit data.

someguy3,

They got no money to do that.

And the details would never work. Most submissions are just links to other sites, or reposts. There's no way to differentiate actual quality content or OC. For mods, anyone can create a sub to become a mod, or appear busy by doing random nonproductive things.

Awwab,
Awwab avatar

According to spez it would only cost them ~3.5 million to pay all the moderators at $20/hour 🤷

someguy3, (edited )

That works out to 84 full time mods (40 hours weeks). I don't believe that. Can you imagine a staff of 84 modding the whole entire site? And set up a weekend shift and that number goes down.

LachlanUnchained,

yeh, im aware of that. nut surely they have backend data on interaction. i made the point elsewhere that interaction doesn't necessarily equate to the work a user or mod is doing, but i still feel something is better than nothing.

someguy3,

Then they get their buddy to post bad shit so they get paid to remove it. To much room for abuse.

LostCause,

The disdain for the working class in general and volunteer mods specifically from spez is palpable, unless he get‘s replaced there is no way they get paid.

I‘m surprised he is even paying US employees, when it would be so much cheaper to fire them and replace with unpaid interns or ChatGPT or outsource it all. When one has the same lack of ethics as Musk, a lot of cost saving avenues open up.

LachlanUnchained,

Who is he? Is he an original? Why is he still even in the job?

Kroxx,

I believe he is a co-creator

LachlanUnchained,

I guess he has some kind of mandate to drive it into a grave if he so chooses then.

Lanmanager,

I wonder if Advance Publications is still the majority owner. If so, the Newhouse family elders that run that company are near or over 70-80 years old. I can almost guarantee they are still using flip cellphones or even Jitterbugs.

gapbetweenus,

Anyone who still works for free for reddit, has some self worth issues. Bein a volunteer in a non profit is one thing, volunteering for a corporation trying to squeeze last penny from user generated content while actively shitting on users, is a strange thing to do in my book. Moderators should just all quit.

MiddleWeigh,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

I don't know about you, but I was raised to have self worth issues. It took a lot of b.s. to break that.

gapbetweenus,

Sorry to hear that, nice that it got better. I was lucky with my parents.

MiddleWeigh,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

Yea I say that to my s.o. all the time. Her parents are awesome and smart. I got lucky through her lol. I'd be a poor little something otherwise fr. I'm super thankful that I even have people that love me at all yknow.

gapbetweenus,

Glad to hear, the family we choose is for quite some folks more important that the one we get born into.

MiddleWeigh,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

I love my family. They were just young, and got thrown to the fates really. I was too much, my sister too.. Living beyond our means in hopes of attaining something we actually had along, but never aware we actually wanted..

My chosen family are definitely more my peopleso to speak, for sure. That's only natural though.

Hogger86,

Yep it can be the law in some places.

I know a music festival that gave free tickets for volunteers in return for 5x8hr shifts. As the festival was a limited company (not charity) the minimum wage laws of my country kicked in.

ryan,

If someone wants to moderate something for any reason (maybe it gives them a sense of self-worth or maybe they just love a community) I hope they will consider alternatives to reddit. It's clear that reddit doesn't value its moderators, evidenced by the fact that it's taken a literal revolt for them to even consider implementing better modding tools / allow some existing modding tools to continue existing.

Th4tGuyII,
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Why do that when the strategy of not paying them a damn thing and vilifying them for protesting against changes that hurt them is so, so much easier?? /s

Seriously talk though, they're never going to get paid. Reddit has been and will continue on betting on Mods continuing to do what they do regardless of how hard it is for them - because the Mods know if they don't, their communities will likely die out with them.

LachlanUnchained,

I mod a relatively large sub. The only thing that annoys me, is there’s a lot of really helpful content on there. Educational. Medical. Just general community vibe. I feel bad for users. I mod, for other users and for the community.

Not for power or fame or to lick the bum of some corporation.

Th4tGuyII,
Th4tGuyII avatar

The problem is it's that kind of altruism (plus the power/fame stuff too) that Reddit are exploiting. The regular users are the collateral.

It's similar to how big companies put barely paid customer service agents as first port of call, so you feel guilty for being mad and never go after the big guys.

MoltenBoron,
@MoltenBoron@lemmy.world avatar

My Good Sir,

Lord u/spez the lousy, has already landed the gentry and now you inquire as to providing wages for the common serf? Harumph.

Regards,

MB, Esq.

ps. Please see attached:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/eac34242-1563-4e97-b527-e649a1723bae.jpeg

Nix,

It might be important to point out how pervasive clickbait content has become.

Even reputable journalists have to let their work become Clickbaity by their editors (title and headline mostly).

Despite all their efforts and super "AI" tools, YouTube is full of irrelevant clickbait whenever searching for something.

All that just to get a pinch from the advertising money pit.

Paying moderators and redditors will likely kill whatever vestiges are left of reddit.

Moreover, altruistic behavior tend to shun/shy away from paid work (it's a totally different mindset).

LachlanUnchained,

I am Happy to find things I feel will bring good to the world.

sneakyninjapants,

YouTube is full of irrelevant clickbait

I've even seen this when searching for technical questions on Google/DDG. And it always seems like the video most closely related to what I'm trying to learn leads to this one guy literally saying (not literally ) "thumbs up, coment, subscribe, patreon" then posts an actual screenshot of a stackoverflow thread that I read through minutes prior. Infuriating.

blahaj,
blahaj avatar

I'm sure it'll happen around the same time that Discord moderators begin to get paid

LachlanUnchained,

Yeh. But I’d discord extracting an insurmountable amount of profit out of its users?

blahaj,
blahaj avatar

They make bank from Nitro but probably not at the same level as reddit with its premium membership and advertising service. If Discord double dipped and showed ads to non-Nitro users it might be a different story.

Tangent,
@Tangent@lemmy.world avatar

They recently laid off 90 employees out of 700 total. There's absolutely no way they're about to start paying the roughly 21,000 moderators that are active on a daily basis. The fact that they're actively vilifying moderators as spoiled children wanting everything for free (gotta love that irony) really slams the door on any possibility of treating them with respect, let alone actual compensation for actually running the damn place.

Otome-chan,
Otome-chan avatar

Reddit moderators do not get paid and afaik there's no plan to pay moderators.

source: am a reddit moderator

lixus98,
lixus98 avatar

Oh you're a reddit mod? Name every subreddit (please don't)

Otome-chan,
Otome-chan avatar

lol. in actuality I mod some smaller subs like /r/timetravel, /r/paneldepon, and /r/girlgames.

blevok,

r/timetravel is a great sub, lots of mind bending discussions. It kinda reminds me of what r/conspiracy used to be like before they traveled back in time.

Otome-chan,
Otome-chan avatar

yup. after I was brought on board I ended up cracking down on a lot of the 0-effort ama posts that clogged the sub, got rid of the spam, and helped push more interesting discussions. also pulled in a couple other mods who help do things nowadays. it's a great sub but low activity.

athos77,

Isn't that what Community Points / reddit Cash or whatever the fuck they were going to call it was? IIRC, they were supposedly backed with Ethereum or some other cryptocurrency. I don't know whatever happened to that program, though; like so many other ill-considered reddit ideas (RPAN, anyone?), it seems to have just faded quietly into the background and disappeared.

LachlanUnchained,

Was it going to be payed out to mods and creators ?

LachlanUnchained,

It’s a tough thing to configure. How much do you pay. Do you pay on volume or on difficulty.

Dick_Justice,
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I bet you can guess the answer...

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