I dunno man, I kinda just figure people should think of it like using the best tool for a job. I use Linux for my home server because that's what it's best for. I used to use OSX for my production work because it used to be the best for that (Win pretty much the same now). And I use Win for gaming because that's what it's best for.
Mostly because of happenstance I have my home server running Arch. I actually do love Arch for desktop, but with the cutting edge rolling updates I have to keep on my toes during updates, I wish it was running Ubuntu.
I’m just learning Linux so I literally Googled the easiest version and installed Ubuntu. I can’t even figure out folder permissions. I’m in over my head, but at least I’m also getting made fun of.
Ubuntu is where most of us start, so fortunately there is a lot of help! Don’t worry, you’ll get the hang of it in time. It’s not hard, it’s just complicated because it’s introducing a lot of new things. I put Linux on a whim on my laptop and after two years I have started to convert everything over. I learned to appreciate an OS that does what I tell it and not assume what I want to do. I choose Ubuntu because it’s what I knew from the computer labs at college ten years ago when I needed to print things. I’ve tried others, but it just works.
Dude, I've been messing with this stuff for a decade and permissions still get me sometimes. If something is breaking, always do a check on permissions. It's often the issue.
You will learn, it just takes time, even those fanboys didn’t know anything about chmod when they started, and some of them install Arch and end up running back to windows because they started on hard mode.
I’m an Ubuntu-user. My wife and myself have a Windows laptop from work and my kids also from school. Not to have to buy another laptop for personal use I made an Ubuntu-usb-stick to boot from any of these four available laptops. I’m not a power user. I need some office-apps, web-browser, … . And gaming is done via Gforce-Now cloud gaming. If that makes me a noob 🙂 I mostly don’t have the time anymore to tinker with all this anymore. Been there, done that.
That’s nice. Be sure to set appropriate flags to mount the USB (e.g. in fstab file) to prolong it’s life span. The thumb drive could deteriorate rather quickly otherwise.
Reading the article, it seems like the configuration of the fstab-file needs to be done at creating the bootable usb-stick? Or can it also be modified afterwards?
To do the tune-ups, the usb drive must be unmounted. But it might not be as relevant as I thought… the same wiki entry says, that if you do 10gb of write operations per day, the USB drive (whitout tune-ups) should last you 10 years. But you still might consider disable journaling as it will speed things up (less of those costly write operations). (See “3.5 Disabling journaling” on the second link).
Are we still doing the old memes thing? Because that’s the only reason I know of to use Ubuntu as the “normal” distro anymore. Nowadays they seem to resent still having a desktop distro. They really only care about server and IoT.
Yeah as far as I can tell, the current big user-friendly distros are either PopOS or Linux Mint because Ubuntu is doing the whole snap thing, and also Mint (maybe Pop too, i havent looked into that one much) is Ubuntu-based just without snap
To avoid them entirely, yes. Ubuntu ships some of its core functionality via snap. That’s how it was tested, and how it will be updated for the foreseeable future. Ripping that out puts you on an untested path that you’re responsible for managing. To keep things working as designed and tested, and avoid breakage, I’d leave snap alone and pretend it doesn’t exist, if I wanted to avoid it.
To avoid them for your personal needs, no they’re not hard to avoid. Just don’t install anything yourself via Snap. Use apt, Flatpak instead. Or any other means.
Personally I use a mix of Snap and Flatpak on top of Ubuntu LTS. That keeps the base OS boring stable and provides a way to keep user apps like GIMP, Inkscape and LibreOffice up to date, without the risk of breakage that comes with PPAs. Docker’s great for running services as well as many other use cases too.
To avoid them for your personal needs, no they’re not hard to avoid. Just don’t install anything yourself via Snap. Use apt, Flatpak instead. Or any other means.
Not entirely accurate. Some apt packages like firefox and chromium just install the corresponding snap.
Snap has it's use cases, but it should not be a silent substitute for .debs
Yes that’s true and in my opinion perfectly fine. As a developer who’s done some deb packaging work, that’s how I’d migrate from a deb to snap in order to minimize breakage on upgrade, especially if I’m no longer supporting the deb. This strategy also keeps compatibility with scripts that apt install firefox which would otherwise break on upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04. It’s a pretty elegant way to do it.
I can see using snaps when the alternative is to break things. But mozilla team is already packaging as .deb for ubuntu available through the mozillateam ppa.
This seems to be canonical arbitrarily injecting the snap store as a dependency for firefox with no clear benefit and noticeable performance issues
I don’t know who packages what and what the SLAs for each is. That is, who makes the snap, who makes the debs in the mozillateam PPA, is it the same people, are they different with different mandates. What is the security patch expectation for the snap and deb. I suspect that there’s a difference there. From purely technical perspective, building a single snap is probably less time and work than building 5 debs, one for each supported Ubuntu release. What we know for sure however is that Ubuntu comes with a security patch expectation for the packages in the base OS along with varying expectations for the packages in the different Ubuntu repositories - main, universe, multiverse, etc. The snap version of Firefox falls under this umbrella. The mozillateam PPA does not. Maybe the latter is also patched as quickly. For users who can’t or don’t want to think about those important details, whatever is shipped with Ubuntu is probably the safest bet, especially when we’re discussing possibly the largest attack surface on end user systems - the internet browser.
Snaps have borked my device table, now lsblk lists every single fucking snap install. I will get a new SSD for my system partition, and I’ll probably go with Debian. If I have to deliberately avoid an OS feature because the vendor has decided to shove it down my throat I will drop that OS like it’s hot.
Those kinds of people suck, the whole point of owning a thing is to enjoy it, if it makes you happy who gives a damn that us arch users will think less of you.
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