Retrograde,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

Thailand can be taken off this list. New conservative govt made it illegal again.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

or rather, will, by the end of the year.

TimewornTraveler,

tfw México has more freedom than tejas

iarigby,

Georgia in blue is very misguided, it’s smoking not possession. And everything around it is pretty strict and draconian. Smoking is legal because of a challenge in supreme court but it hasn’t impacted laws or prosecution

johannesvanderwhales,

It’s inaccurate to say that it’s legal in any part of the United States. “Illegal but unenforced” maybe.

SlothMama,

Illegal at a Federal level, but legal on a state level is a weird type of ambiguous, but the states it is legal in your won’t be raided by local police, and probably Even Federal Police.

ILikeBoobies,

That would be illegal but unenforced

Seasoned_Greetings, (edited )

I get what you’re saying, but that raises an entirely different ambiguity vs the states where it is illegal but decriminalized. Because you’d have to lump them all in together at that point, defeating the purpose of differentiating between the criminality within state law.

Just look at the difference between New Mexico, Texas, and Louisiana for instance. They all treat marijuana differently on a state level but they’d all be painted one color under the logic of federal acceptance and lose the nuance of how it’s handled in actuality.

And besides all that, the vast majority of cases where someone is brought to charges in the US defer to state law precisely because the fed doesn’t have a standard. The only time the US tends to step in is for felony level cases or interstate crimes.

johannesvanderwhales,

It’s not ambiguous at all. Federal law trumps state law. It is still very much illegal in all of the United States, and the federal laws could be enforced again at any moment depending on the whims on the Justice Department.

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Why does the KKKeast hate a plant so much?

johannesvanderwhales,

China’s experience with opium has a lot to do with views on drugs in Asia.

Goodie,

Given that weed is now legal for medicinal use, there’s been a lot less enforcement here in NZ.

Mostly, at the outset cops have no way of knowing if you have a prescription or not, and asking if it’s a suitable prescription is a pretty big no-no.

Reddfugee42,

There’s no sane reason for this except to stand in awe of the reach of Western conservatism.

Rodeo,

sees the whole world doing something

Look how the West has influenced the world!

I think this more of an indication that conservatism is not a strictly Western thing.

r_se_random,

I’ll recommend reading up on the history of cannabis bans. There were multiple countries which were coersed into criminalising marijuana to open trade with America. Don’t remember if that was Raegan or Nixon.

TimewornTraveler,

a bit narrow minded to think these issues only revolve around “”“the west”“”. there’s a lot of shit involved

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to Germany in blue since yesterday! Interestingly buying and selling it is still not allowed. You can grow up to three plants for own use

I would expect or at least hope Denmark will follow suit.

hikaru755, (edited )

buying and selling it is still not allowed.

That’s somewhat misleading. It is allowed in the form of non-profit clubs selling giving to members who pay a membership fee for personal use. It’s just commercial sale that’s banned.

Edit to correct the above statement and to add that the clubs are only gonna be legal in July.

Gladaed,

Clubs are only permitted to distribute in juli.

hikaru755,

Oh, I wasn’t actually aware of that, thanks! Added it to my comment as well

Socsa,

What about in Decembei?

Gladaed,

What about it?

basxto,
@basxto@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

in vs. from (bzw. im vs. ab)

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Ok. The news did mention clubs but not in details

So people can sell their cannabis to other members of the club? Whould this allow people to grow their 3 permitted plants for selling to others even though its only allowed to grow them for personal use?

hikaru755, (edited )

I haven’t looked too much into it, but iirc the clubs would be able to grow their own plants, independent of the allowance that individuals have for home-growing. Here’s a (German) article about how the clubs are supposed to work, that seems to confirm that, even if it’s not spelled out explicitly: www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/…/29733674.html

Also, see the other comments on mine, some good clarifications in there!

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

I think there is a lot of fine print, like

From that link, I find that each club is permitted a mix of 500 members (although some had 1000 sign up just last weekend). So existing larger clubs are splitting into smaller subclubs. It also states that they may only sell a maximum of 50grams per month to each user. They may not seek profit. Resale of cannabis from other manufacturers is prohibited, so the clubs need to grow their own canabis! They are also not allowed to hire people to grow, harvest, plant, or even sell in the clubs. It needs to be the members who do this

It’s all going to be very interesting to follow, but it looks like there will be a lot of space needed to grow them, and paybe even a lot of energy going to waste on this (instead of growing it places where the weather or even the landscape allows)! Its hard to grow enough cannabis in the center of Berlin I assume

basxto,
@basxto@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The English word for this construct is Cannabis Social Club. It’s nearly identical to what Malta does, but you can get more per day in Germany because you can carry more in public.

Germany still allows more than Malta, Luxembourg and Georgia.

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Not quite accurate. Selling is still illegal, even for the clubs. You pay a monthly fee to the club and the club is giving you a monthly allowance of up to 50g.

Yes, this is selling with extra steps but it circumvents EU stuff about not being allowed to commercialise cannabis.

hikaru755, (edited )

Good clarification, I edited my comment accordingly, thanks!

echodot,

The UK should probably be pink not red.

The police actually wanted to legalize it but the government refused to. They even fired their advisor when he said that cannabis isn’t really that bad and probably shouldn’t be an illegal substance. The UK government is awful and corrupt as hell.

So it’s still illegal but the police very rarely actually do anything about possession. They may take it off you but it’s not going to result in any legal action.

undergroundoverground,

Yeah, were the biggest producer of medical weed in the world but its illegal to have any here, without knowing the right people.

Like you said, pure corruption.

echodot,

Teresa May’s husband owns the largest supplier in the country. I suppose the family deserves some success but it doesn’t exactly sit very well.

pirrrrrrrr,

Fucking Canberra has it but not the rest of us

EndlessNightmare,

Cannabiserra

Welt,

Give the capital some love ya dogs

pirrrrrrrr,

Love? It’s full of politicians and roundabouts.

Welt,

Politicians who are legalising it not criticising it

ChallengeApathy,

Seems the majority of the world is based.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

brazil can probably be pink instead of red if you are not poor or not black

Thunderbird4,

It’s illegal in Jamaica?!

CanadaPlus,

Yup. But, the thing about laws in the third world is that they only kind-of exist.

Maggoty, (edited )

They exist for sure if you’re a tourist. You’re either a payday for a local cop or an example to be trotted out as proof they enforce those laws. The latter is so a higher up can divert DEA funding into their bank account.

Obviously that’s not every developing country, maybe not even most. But unless you’re very familiar with the country and area, it’s not a risk you should take.

CanadaPlus, (edited )

Exactly. Whether you’re in the kind-of or kind-of-not has everything to do with bribes and/or local connections. And how many other people are also breaking that particular law, like in Jamaica’s case. Sometimes this is bad, sometimes this is paradoxically helpful. Technically homeless people in the third world can often build a permanent house anyway, for example.

It also varies significantly by level of urbanness, with cities being the most formally run. Even backwoods first world will have things going on that would never fly in the cities.

w2tpmf,

They recently decimalized it and legalized medical use. Getting a medical card involves filling out a form self proclaiming a need and paying a $15 filing fee. You can do this in the dispensary while they are bagging up your weed and psychedelic mushrooms.

deft,

Out of date

flubo,

Since germany is blue on the map and its only legal here from today on, i dont think it is an old, out of date map. But maybe the information for some Other country is just wrong?

deft,

US is wrong for a good amount of states I believe

mryessir,

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