Don’t look into any details if you want to keep that opinion
Any details- Only adults may consume and/or own cannabis - No buying, selling or giving away weed - Only consuming cannabis you or your Cannabis Social Club (CSC), should you join one, grew is allowed. In a CSC cannabis may be grown and sold to its members - CSCs may not make profits - No more than 50 (30 if you are younger than 21) grams of cannabis per month may be handed out to you by your CSC - No cannabis with more than 10% THC may be handed out to people younger than 21 - Consuming cannabis within 100 meters (visual range) of a playground, school, youth center, public sports facilities or CSCs is prohibited - Consuming cannabis between 7am and 8pm in a pedestrian zone is prohibited - Consuming cannabis “close” to minors is prohibited - No CSC may be established within 200 meters of a school or playground - max 500 members per CSC - no more than 1 CSC per 6000 city residents (or 1 CSC if the city/town has less than 6000 residents) - no extracting THC from cannabis - no owning more than 3 cannabis plants - no owning more than 50 grams of dried cannabis, including plants - no carrying around more than 25 grams of dried cannabis, including plants - CSCs have to keep meticulous records about their members, who received when how much cannabis and how much cannabis grew in total - police can just go and take these records without requiring a judge’s approval - for the coming months: no driving a car or bicycle with more than 1 ng of THC in your blood or you will lose your car driver’s license and pay a fine (yes, even if you’re caught riding your bicycle, you will lose your car driver’s license). Fun fact: the police announced they will significantly increase controls
Also, LOL, only 500 out of every 6000 people are allowed to have weed they didn’t grow individually. Of all the arbitrary restrictions, that seems the arbitrariest.
no owning more than 50 grams of dried cannabis, including plants
Plants don’t have dried cannabis on them.
No carrying around more than 25 grams
Being allowed to carry 25g in public is still a lot more than the 7g allowed in Malta and the 3g allowed in Luxembourg. Some US states only allow to posses 28g in total.
It is very limited though. I would consider Germany more on the decriminalized side.
You are allowed to own a small amount. You are allowed to grow up to three plants at home. It is illegal to buy, sell, or import.
There is rules for having cannabis social clubs similiar to Spain, but the rules around them are quite complex and a lot of it remains unclear, until the law will have been interpreted in court decisions.
Some German states have already announced that they will make life hell for anyone smoking weed in legal public spaces or operating a legal cannabis social club. Also the level of permittable THC for driving is still undecided.
Currently any level of blood THC is considered a DUI and can not only get you a fine, but also a suspension of your drivers licencse with an extensive “medical psychological check up” if you want to regain your licencse. That “check up” is run by private businesses who also sell courses on which answers are right and which are wrong. Basically anything beyond “this was the only time i swear, i was in a bad place and i should have never done it and i am so sorry, and i will never do it again” is a wrong answer.
Now we had an expert proposal for a higher level of permittable blood THC. The proposed level has yet to pass but it would effectively be fine for occasional users, but still a problem for regular users, as it is close to the baseline THC level that they have.
So all in all it is a great step forward, especially considering how the “debate” from the political right and fascists was run around 1970s war on drug prohibition and cultural deprevation talking points. However it still creates many aspects to watch out for and it should be noted, that the political right wants to do everything to reverse the laws, when they likely win the elections next year. The problem with that is also that the center right social democrats are still internally devided, with many of them still thinking of weed as the devils lettuce.
Of the 9 countries who legalized it, 1 reverted that already, 6 don’t allow selling and one of those six doesn’t even have proper laws for it, only the supreme court ruling that private growing and possession can’t be banned. For a blue country Germany is mid-table.
In contrast to Canada and Uruguay Germany is hesitant to openly violate international treaties for this.
That’s somewhat misleading. It is allowed in the form of non-profit clubs selling giving to members who pay a membership fee for personal use. It’s just commercial sale that’s banned.
Edit to correct the above statement and to add that the clubs are only gonna be legal in July.
So people can sell their cannabis to other members of the club? Whould this allow people to grow their 3 permitted plants for selling to others even though its only allowed to grow them for personal use?
I haven’t looked too much into it, but iirc the clubs would be able to grow their own plants, independent of the allowance that individuals have for home-growing. Here’s a (German) article about how the clubs are supposed to work, that seems to confirm that, even if it’s not spelled out explicitly: www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/…/29733674.html
Also, see the other comments on mine, some good clarifications in there!
From that link, I find that each club is permitted a mix of 500 members (although some had 1000 sign up just last weekend). So existing larger clubs are splitting into smaller subclubs. It also states that they may only sell a maximum of 50grams per month to each user. They may not seek profit. Resale of cannabis from other manufacturers is prohibited, so the clubs need to grow their own canabis! They are also not allowed to hire people to grow, harvest, plant, or even sell in the clubs. It needs to be the members who do this
It’s all going to be very interesting to follow, but it looks like there will be a lot of space needed to grow them, and paybe even a lot of energy going to waste on this (instead of growing it places where the weather or even the landscape allows)! Its hard to grow enough cannabis in the center of Berlin I assume
The English word for this construct is Cannabis Social Club. It’s nearly identical to what Malta does, but you can get more per day in Germany because you can carry more in public.
Germany still allows more than Malta, Luxembourg and Georgia.
Not quite accurate. Selling is still illegal, even for the clubs. You pay a monthly fee to the club and the club is giving you a monthly allowance of up to 50g.
Yes, this is selling with extra steps but it circumvents EU stuff about not being allowed to commercialise cannabis.
Illegal at a Federal level, but legal on a state level is a weird type of ambiguous, but the states it is legal in your won’t be raided by local police, and probably Even Federal Police.
I get what you’re saying, but that raises an entirely different ambiguity vs the states where it is illegal but decriminalized. Because you’d have to lump them all in together at that point, defeating the purpose of differentiating between the criminality within state law.
Just look at the difference between New Mexico, Texas, and Louisiana for instance. They all treat marijuana differently on a state level but they’d all be painted one color under the logic of federal acceptance and lose the nuance of how it’s handled in actuality.
And besides all that, the vast majority of cases where someone is brought to charges in the US defer to state law precisely because the fed doesn’t have a standard. The only time the US tends to step in is for felony level cases or interstate crimes.
It’s not ambiguous at all. Federal law trumps state law. It is still very much illegal in all of the United States, and the federal laws could be enforced again at any moment depending on the whims on the Justice Department.
Dprk says unknown and while i couldnt tell you the legality on paper, its sold in stores and pretty easy to obtain. I think its usually leaf not flower though?
You’re going to confuse people by calling North Korea their chosen moniker. Honestly, it would be really weird for it to be banned in most of the east, because the major reason it was banned in the USA was because of anticompetitive laws and racism, but China is 91% Han and lacks any constitutional antidiscrimination laws so I can’t imagine they would even need to resort to any sort of stealthy racism.
Is Antarctica really “unknown”? The closest there is to antarctic law would be international treaties and they are mostly about nuclear weapons and oil drilling.
I feel like if you are willing to live in a frozen hellscape you should be able to smoke whatever you want
From what I’ve heard in the past the laws scientists follow are enforced administratively by their country. So while scientists for X country could smoke, an American scientist would be sent home for it. (But not charged with a crime)
Facilities operate under the flag of whatever country built them. Of course it’s complicated because there’s also no police there, so everything’s legal unless somebody wants to report it. Even then they would have problems because they wouldn’t be any actual evidence. At least not without sending an investigation team that to the Antarctic which they’re unlikely to do.
Realistically I think it probably exists in a sort of gray zone which operates mostly on a don’t commit any crime too bad rule. Don’t be murdering people and you’ll probably be okay doing whatever. After all, a certain amount of leniency is required because the world does not have an overabundance of people willing to live in Antarctica.
The police actually wanted to legalize it but the government refused to. They even fired their advisor when he said that cannabis isn’t really that bad and probably shouldn’t be an illegal substance. The UK government is awful and corrupt as hell.
So it’s still illegal but the police very rarely actually do anything about possession. They may take it off you but it’s not going to result in any legal action.
I’ll recommend reading up on the history of cannabis bans. There were multiple countries which were coersed into criminalising marijuana to open trade with America. Don’t remember if that was Raegan or Nixon.
That appears to be the Australian Capital Territory. Being from the US, I’m going to assume Canberra has a separate jurisdiction from surrounding states, like Washington DC
On 25 September 2019, the Australian Capital Territory passed a bill allowing for possession and growth of small amounts of cannabis for personal use as of 31 January 2020, although the laws conflict with federal laws that prohibit recreational use of cannabis and the supply of cannabis and cannabis seeds are not allowed under the changes.[5]
the US is not legal in any sense in any state just ask Flip Flop Joe
here we prop up corporate cannabis and continue to erode consumer protections like everything else we do
we say one thing in public to other countries but behind closed doors the US has degraded to militarized police control where when one is arrested the cops control the narrative along with the judges not common law
cannabis is legal for the corporations to trade and profit off of and there are no protections for consumers just empty promises
Can you elaborate? Because I have purchased legally sold cannabis up the East coast of the USA. Both recreational and medical cannabis. Do you mean on a federal level?
I also own a medical cannabis card issued to me by the state I live in.
I’m also unsure about your corporation comments. Most dispensaries are owned by mom and pops or startups. Do, do you live in the USA? Just curious.
work in the industry and have for years and with legal experts on this matter in different states and am not the first generation in the family to do so and no this does not make me an expert but an observer throughout the years
most mom and pop dispensaries are usually funded by corporate cannabis funds either by loans or investments and more times than not eventually bought out
yes you may have bought products from a legal dispensary but if you get pulled by the wrong cop and there are more of them than good ones you could face five years or more for simple possession or just get a slap on the wrist even in legal states
all depends on the cops and the judges and what they say the story is, there are no lab tests done for most court cases, and terry stops are on the rise were reasonable suspicion is not needed to pull over and toss the contents of the vehicles
not just the federal illegality of it but the states not coming together on laws both with cannabis and other laws that touch the laws making cannabis illegal such as Roe v. Wade falling
Biden promising then flip flopping on cannabis and then him and his party not properly defending women’s rights have opened a huge rift allowing for more extortion of the US citizens and not much legal ground is left to defend one’s self
No, when you say that cannabis is not legal in the USA in any state in any sense…
What exactly do you mean by that? I just gave you numerous examples of the legality of cannabis in some states. I literally have a state issued ID to have and consume marijuana. How do you justify your statement with the facts I have given you?
mean there is nothing protecting your right to your state issued ID to have and consume cannabis products
have something all day long but whether your right to do is protected is altogether a different story
we are now dealing with this with the drug mifepristone
a state may allow you to have it but is the right to carry that medication protected if you go elsewhere in the “United States” or just elsewhere in the state you are in
some cities are now half medical and/or recreational and the other half illegal and/or medicinal
just like with cannabis that now has become a questionable scenario and a very fractured and confusing place to navigate legally
This is not the first time I’ve seen one of your comments at the dead bottom, downvoted into oblivion. Maybe it’s time to reevaluate some of your opinions? It really doesn’t help that you write with the clarity of a recent stroke victim.
He’s not wrong though. For example in VA it’s legal but you can’t buy it because of administrative stuff. In AZ they decided to rename it so it wasn’t technically covered by the ballot measure to legalize it. That’s just two that I’m aware of. So it’s not what it looks like from the outside at all. And God help you if you try to get high in a national park or BLM land and get found by a federal police officer. (That’s something like half the land west of the Mississippi River and it’s not signposted.)
It’s extremely legal here in California so the initial extreme blanket statement is immediately disproven. Everything that follows is not worth reading.
The USA map needs lines at state borders to remind us that the state border itself is a federal thing and one can definitely be pinched by the wrong cop at the wrong time.
…or so I read. Check it out for yourself. It’s a fun game!
I don’t know why you got downvoted, but I know someone who recently got a pretty big ticket for a few grams of weed at a border checkpoint between two completely legal states, so you are correct.
They exist for sure if you’re a tourist. You’re either a payday for a local cop or an example to be trotted out as proof they enforce those laws. The latter is so a higher up can divert DEA funding into their bank account.
Obviously that’s not every developing country, maybe not even most. But unless you’re very familiar with the country and area, it’s not a risk you should take.
Exactly. Whether you’re in the kind-of or kind-of-not has everything to do with bribes and/or local connections. And how many other people are also breaking that particular law, like in Jamaica’s case. Sometimes this is bad, sometimes this is paradoxically helpful. Technically homeless people in the third world can often build a permanent house anyway, for example.
It also varies significantly by level of urbanness, with cities being the most formally run. Even backwoods first world will have things going on that would never fly in the cities.
They recently decimalized it and legalized medical use. Getting a medical card involves filling out a form self proclaiming a need and paying a $15 filing fee. You can do this in the dispensary while they are bagging up your weed and psychedelic mushrooms.
Since germany is blue on the map and its only legal here from today on, i dont think it is an old, out of date map. But maybe the information for some Other country is just wrong?
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