Omega_Haxors,
MacNCheezus,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

OP looking down on the unwashed masses after complaining about his fancy washing machine:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/036/772/vultouri.jpg

Siegfried,

Im still waiting for the last edit OP, dont leave us hanging

camelbeard,

I think it was 17:18 when the door lock finally opened. The very first time estimate said it should be ready at 16:10. So it was definitely a big lie.

RBWells,

Our dryer does this to us:

Put clothes in, start it - it estimates 35 units of time. Come back in 15 minutes to check, it says 15 units left. Come back in 15 minutes, it now says 21 units left.

I am, like all of us, unsure of the fundamental nature of time. But the dryer even more so. The units are not one standard length, and they don’t move always in the same direction.

noobdoomguy8658,

Valve time; the phenomenon is often observed in software development, with some calling it the software development time.

Jokes aside, reading this thread makes me appreciate the old junk for the washing machine I have around here much more - at least it’s accurate with time!

hakunawazo,
Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not always the fault of the device. It estimate the time based on the download speed in this moment, but it can’t know that in the next moment your ISP server slows down or that your AV stops the download for some times to analyze a suspicios file, things like this to make your day enjoyable. Because of this, never automatic updates. I recieve an notification if there is an update in the queue and so I can update when I like in a spare time.

gallopingsnail,
@gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Uh, this is a photo of a clothes dryer.

Peter1986C,
@Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

The photo shows a washing machine though (I can read the Dutch labeling of the dials/buttons).

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

And who needs an Dryer, Washingmashine, Fridge or other home appliance with Internet connection to spy you? Then complaining on Lemmy about the lack of privacy on the internet and the control of large corporations over the user.

https://file.coffee/u/RoMRLR5csB1SMaE_oakOf.gif

Caitlyynn,
@Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I still wouldn’t be surprused if it worked that way

0ops,

That’s a washer, or maybe a dryer I can’t tell. I hope it’s not downloading anything

Peter1986C,
@Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

Washer. It describes available washing programs in Dutch.

KrokanteBamischijf,

Had the exact same experience the other day. Fuck these machines, fuck printers, fuck microwave ovens, fuck software updates and fuck time estimates in general.

dangblingus,

Shouldn’t need to be an estimate. The washer and drier are on timers. Use that as the time indicator.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Most dryers these days should be using a moisture sensor, not a timer.

Threeme2189,

Most dryers give an estimate of time but use a sensor to judge if the clothes are indeed dry.

kamen,

Kind of like estimations in software development.

meekah,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

estimations in software development are much less reliable IMO

BirdsWithBeefyArms,

Lies. They’re very reliable. You can rely on them to be wrong.

NegativeInf,

Take whatever timeline you have and double it. Then add 6 more weeks of cram.

Thcdenton,

Then the lying whore sings a cheerful little tune after it fucked up my schedule.

FQQD, (edited )
@FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

How can this be an estimation, and how is it so wrong? Doesn’t the program just have a hard-coded length? Or does the time vary based on clothing weight or something? This seems so utterly strange to me.

Shard,

Seems to be a washing machine. 1600RPM spin dry.

The problem occurs because there are 2 conditions that need to be fulfilled.

  1. Its programmed to spin at set RPM for 6 mins.
  2. Before it can initiate a full speed spin it needs to ensure the drum is balanced. If its off balanced it will damage the spin motor and other parts of the machine in short order. (reference old machines that sound like an earthquake during spin cycles). It will keep attempting to adjust the clothes by start-stopping so clothes can fall in place. Only when the vibrations are down to acceptable levels will the machine initiate a full speed spin dry. Machine will stay stuck at set spin time until condition 2 is fulfilled.

The way to fix this is to open up the machine, untangle balled up clothes and allow the spin dry to resume.

Landless2029,

I find you get much more accurate estimates when you don’t overstuff the machine. You’re supposed to keep it 60-70% full to allow for proper agitation. Lots of people top it off.

Cinner,

If you read the instructions, on mine anyway, it says a full load is to the top of the basket without pressing down on any of the clothes. I always lay them around in a circular pattern to even out the level of clothes as I’m loading it. My fiancee used to shove as much as she could in there, and it would get off balance and wobble and shake the house. It took a lot of convincing but she finally believed me after I kept pointing out that’s probably why it was happening.

Washing machines (mine anyway) wash by spinning back and forth in water with detergent, so if you stuff it full there’s not much room for any clothes to move and they don’t get very clean and will come out smelling like laundry detergent.

Landless2029,

Sounds like you have top load and not front load.

I’m referring to front load machines.

Ref: www.wash.com/…/front-load-max-fill-level.gif

www.wash.com/…/clothes-not-getting-clean/

camelbeard,

Very good reply, just one thing to add, it’s both a washer and dryer, we did a full wash dry cycle.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Even worse… dryers often use a moisture sensor to determine when it is done. Load shifts, sensors gets more moisture, time goes up.

Kase,

Those are a thing? TIL, how cool!

red,

It’s even harder to estimate two separate things accurately. So many variables

Blackmist,

I assume it weighs it at the start and knows it’s dry when it weighs the same again.

It doesn’t know what the material is. Some dry quicker than others.

FQQD,
@FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

That’s actually a very smart way to do that. Couldn’t have thought of that

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I see you bought a dryer that’s in Hawaiian time

No worries, just go with the flow it’ll work out

Fun fact though typically the last little bit of drying in the dryer is just cool down time, so just reach in there and grab those toasty boxers, you’ll be fine

BCsven,

Must be a Welsh machine. I’ll be there now, in a minute.

jonne,

The labelling is in Dutch, so it’s either a Dutch or a Flemish machine.

BCsven,

It was a joke, since the Welsh say “I’ll do it now, straight away” for immediately, but “Now, in a minute” for I’ll do it, but have no estimate of when it will get done.

Kyouki,

to go full circle, it’s a samsung eco bubble of sorts. I have one myself as a dutchy and I think it does time itself based on what’s in there so it’s just an estimation.

BCsven,

Yeah, I have the same machine. it will be saying 1 minute left on the spin cycle for 10 minutes.

BleakBluets,
@BleakBluets@lemmy.world avatar

My dryer has a couple different presets which all adjust the remaining time dynamically according to a predetermind dryness level. To get around this, I just use the “custom” setting and change the temperature and timer manually.

GissaMittJobb,

I much prefer hang drying.

  • Less wear on the clothes
  • Basically no energy cost (technically not correct but it’s really whatever)
  • Free humidifying during the dry winters
  • Fairly satisfying thing to do while listening to a podcast

The primary downside is that it’s no fun to do it when it rains, neither indoors or outdoors, but as long as you time your laundry well enough, it’s all good.

exocrinous,

Relying on the weather to dry your clothes is a scam. You’re just going to get tricked. I have ADHD so it’s a no go

GissaMittJobb,

What does ADHD have to do with this? I’m not sure that I get it.

exocrinous,

I can’t remember to do shit because I don’t experience the mental construct of time in the same way as neurotypicals. And even with an alarm, it’s still an extra cognitive load that makes me more likely to mess up everything else. If I forget the clothes on the line for a week, they’ll degrade in the elements and get mildew from the night dew. Inside is a better place for me to forget my clothes. I have less stuff to remember for less time, an alarm is more help to me, and I don’t have to plan for unexpected variables.

The drying machine is a disabled person’s ally.

GissaMittJobb,

I see - remembering to bring the laundry inside is the issue.

While there’s nothing wrong with using a dryer - I’m certainly not going to deny you the privilege - perhaps hanging the clothes inside could be a passable workaround for the memory issue? Assuming your indoor environment allows for it, that is.

meliaesc,

It’s -11°F where I am today, my family still lives in Jamaica and I envy their ability to hang their clothes so much.

GissaMittJobb,

It should be possible to hang your clothes indoors still, I guess. Outdoors as well I’ve been told, when it’s a bit below freezing, but I’ll admit that I’ve never actually tried that.

Knuschberkeks,

I do all the time and it works.

GissaMittJobb,

What’s your usual strategy? Any maximum outdoor temperature you aim for, how long do you aim to hang the clothes, etc?

BCsven,

Nothing like spring/summer outdoor fresh dried laundry

camelbeard,

At home I hang most of the clothes, but we where at a short trip and we had some wet towels and swimgear, so de decided to just do one full laundry with most of our wet and dirty clothes. The first duration before I even started the cycle was that it should be done at about 16:10 it was actually done more than an hour later.

tacosanonymous,

“Two minutes, Turkish.”

TedZanzibar,

It was two minutes five minutes ago!

IHateFacelessPorn,

I can’t understand the joke. :/

BestBouclettes,

I believe it’s from the movie Snatch

_dev_null,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar
TWeaK,

My washing machine over-estimates at first, it drops nearly an hour after it gets going. However, it will underestimate later on.

Also, it does this thing where it beeps that it’s starting, doesn’t do anything, then unlocks the door for a few seconds, then locks it again and actually starts. That’s been a life saver for catching that one sock that got left behind and didn’t make it into the drum.

MNByChoice,

Exactly. It is critical to learn what the machine means when not under time pressure.

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