argv_minus_one,

If it was predatory, then why was he aboard, risking his own life?

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Because even the smartest people can start believing their own “lies”.

He had faith in his systems and decried anyone who challenged that faith.

Just remember that faith and facts are not the same thing.

zlatiah,
zlatiah avatar

Not sure how much of it is "predatory" behavior and how much of it is just a combination of being a masterful salesman + being really, really dumb, "drinking his own Kool-aid"... The dude was piloting the sub on every expedition after all

furrowsofar,

The thing that struck me is he maybe favored, and maybe only had young inexperienced people working on the project. This can only mean that older people would not work with him, or he did not want people that actually know something asking hard questions. The same would be true for not having a good non-destructive testing campaign and a destructive one too. If true this is a huge organizational issue. He may have been short of money too, so he presumably cut corners for this reason as well. Exactly where was the money coming from for example.

shiftenter,
shiftenter avatar

He specifically stated he didn't want to hire older and experienced employees.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/why-stockton-rush-didnt-hire-50-year-old-white-guys-for-titanic-sub-tours/

furrowsofar,

Translation: He cannot act as a visionary genious when there are qualified people around that know something and ask hard questions.

floofloof,

The OceanGate CEO … once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”

Stockton Rush, 61, added that such expertise was unnecessary because “anybody can drive the sub” with a $30 video game controller.

Each thing that comes out about this guy makes him look a little worse.

MortyMcFry,
@MortyMcFry@aussie.zone avatar

Lucky that mission was squashed

comicallycluttered,

Yo, did something happen here or is my connection all messed up?

It looks like a bunch of comments disappeared from this thread, and even one I made is missing from my comment history.

Drusas,

They could save a lot of words by just saying that he was a capitalist.

doublejay,

loads of wicked smaht people after the fact. funny that. how about raising the alarm before he killed people ?

floofloof, (edited )

how about raising the alarm before he killed people ?

Like the friend who warned him the hull seemed fragile and advised him to do more testing before allowing passengers onboard, only to be told to “keep your opinions to yourself”? Or the engineers who warned not to use carbon fibre and titanium but whose “rule” he was proud to ignore, or his executive who warned him about the implosion risk and demanded regular tests for wear and who sued him after being fired for it, or the three dozen experts who signed an open letter to him warning his sub was unsafe?

He had no shortage of warnings, but seems to have made it a point of pride to ignore them.

lunarshot,

Hopefully this serves as a cautionary tale going forward and dissuades other misinformed people about the purpose of regulations. All loss of life is tragic but hopefully it can serve as a warning.

VanillaGorilla,

I doubt it. Others died of their own hubris before and he did it anyways, he'll not be the last to refuse to learn.

Givesomefucks,

Yeah, wasn’t the first time, won’t be the last.

Rich people always assume they know better than the plebs.

It’s hows they justify treating everyone else like shit.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
RiikkaTheIcePrincess avatar

Okay, can we talk about this headline for a sec? It kinda sounds like we're about to hear from an expert 'predator' :'D "Yeah I've been ripping off investors for over a decade now and I can tell you this is exactly the sort of thing I'd do. Usually I don't die from it, though."

sendingmath,
sendingmath avatar

it's sounding like this guy was pretty awful

sadreality,

Sounds like a champion of the poors imho

TWeaK,

Rush said: "While there's obviously risk it's way safer than flying in a helicopter or even scuba diving. There hasn't been even an injury in 35 years in a non-military subs."

He also apparently said something like "almost all sub accidents are the result of pilot error".

These are both because almost all subs are certified for safety. A certification he specifically chose not to get, because of his belief about pilot error. The risk of mechanical faults is all but eliminated, leaving pilot error as the only likely risk - without the certification, mechanical faults are much more likely and, in this case in particular, almost inevitable.

CrimsonOnoscopy,

Guess he shouldn't have done that.

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