joaomarrom,

I’m not up to speed with the whole border policy thing aside from knowing that kids are still in cages, which is pretty much all I need to know

having said that, isn’t this essentially just immediately accepting defeat to the republicans before the conflict even starts? isn’t this sternly-worded statement just “okay okay, I’ll do what you want, happy now?”, or am I reading it wrong?

coeliacmccarthy,

:yea:

rootsbreadandmakka,

I mean he was sort of doing what they want anyway before this all started is my understanding. The whole conflict was all pretty vibes based, Biden has continued Trump’s policies at the border. So he’d probably be doing what they want anyway at the border

SupFBI,
@SupFBI@hexbear.net avatar

Literally lending credence to the Republicans’ fabricated border crisis. While at the same time trying to appeal to racist voters who will not vote for Diet Trump. Yup. Classic Dem. move.

john_browns_beard,
@john_browns_beard@hexbear.net avatar

Lesser evil looking a lot less lesser these days

Crikeste,

What a feckless lying coward. There is no border crisis, you liberal conservative racist piece of shit.

Every day Biden does some new shit to solidify his losing of my vote.

I was jjjuuusssstttt about back to falling in line, status quo style; but this reminded me of how violent that is.

Evilphd666,
@Evilphd666@hexbear.net avatar

Ahhhh let me be clear obama-socialism grant the next brump more executive powers.

idkmybffjoeysteel,
@idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net avatar

You know what would be cool would be if the US stopped starting wars and funding paramilitary death squads. Maybe then there would be less people fleeing their homes.

Kaplya,

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I have been saying this for a long time: the Democrats are going to eat the Republican’s lunches. Racism, immigration, warmongering, support for police brutality - whatever that used to be the pillars of the Republican platform, the Democrats are doing them so much better and the libs are cheerfully clapping for “four more years!”

MAGA Republicans really only have “woke culture” and “transgenderism” to cry about these days. Their desperation is a sign of losing grounds, as was evident when their anti-abortion stunt backfired. But the smart Republicans, who want a competent leadership that passes conservative legislations but not too overt about it, are noticing what Biden has done for them.

nat_turner_overdrive,
@nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net avatar

The Democrats have been doing this kind of shit for a long time, trying to appeal to Republicans. It has never and will never work. If you’re a Republican, why vote for a Democrat who does the things you want when you can vote for a Republican who does the things you want? There’s no rational calculation being done by American voters. It’s blue team vs red team, you will not find Republicans voting for Biden.

Biden is doing more than Trump ever did about the “”““border crisis””“”" and what is the Republican response? They all hate him and dozens of governors are in a standoff.

usa_suxxx,
@usa_suxxx@hexbear.net avatar

Exactly. Biden, in particular, is doing what he was doing as a senator. Being more racist than Republicans. Biden’s political career had reached its apex until the First Black President picked him as his Vice President and gave “modern” cover for Biden’s old time racist image.

Kaplya,

Your average Republican voter, sure, I 100% agree with you. But I am talking about the donor class, the only class that matters when it comes to deciding what’s going on under the American democracy. Even the Republican donor class is starting to be sold on Biden being the better qualified president.

On the other hand, it is funny to see Republican boomers who wanted to hate Biden so much by blaming “inflation” on him and “predicting a Biden recession all over the last 2 years” only to see their asset wealth shot through the roof, far more than they could have imagined than under Trump. Must be a cognitive dissonant moment for them.

nat_turner_overdrive,
@nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net avatar

Even the Republican donor class is starting to be sold on Biden being the better qualified president.

What are you basing this on?

edit: Worth noting that Hillary pulled in more funds than Trump did in 2016 and she still got washed

Kaplya,

What are you basing this on?

The lines are going up everywhere for the rich people. The economy is seriously doing very well if you belong to the top 1-5% in America right now. They all tried to fantasize about how Biden would screw up the economy but it never happened lol. It only made them far richer than when they were under Trump. Now, nobody wants the gravy train to stop.

The most impressive part is that Biden managed to make rich people richer while screwing poor people along the way. Biden gave them the satisfaction of being able to see poor people suffering while their numbers go up. That’s something they had wanted Trump to deliver but didn’t happen.

Worth noting that Hillary pulled in more funds than Trump did in 2016 and she still got washed

Which is exactly why they won’t let this happen a second time.

nat_turner_overdrive,
@nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net avatar

I should also note, money isn’t being used to buy votes directly. What it gets spent on matters, and the DNC is primarily about spending that money within your circle of friends and family. If you raise twice as much money as the GOP but you spend it on your dumbshit failson consultant friends who just want to re-do the 2016 campaign strategy, well, good luck.

nat_turner_overdrive,
@nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net avatar

What mechanism are you proposing that “they” will use to stop it?

HexBroke,

There’s no rational calculation being done by American voters.

I mean, you put it there the sentence before

If you’re a Republican, why vote for a Democrat who does the things you want when you can vote for a Republican who does the things you want

The rational calculus has the some result so you might as well get qualitative enjoyment by sticking it to the smug democrats

Tachanka,
@Tachanka@hexbear.net avatar

Racism, immigration, warmongering, support for police brutality - whatever that used to be the pillars of the Republican platform, the Democrats are doing them so much better and the libs are cheerfully clapping for “four more years!

they’re just retvrning to their dixiecrat roots. this is the limitations of having a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. neither party will ever be anything but reactionary, but they will both trade places with each other being the more reactionary party, the “bad cop” so to speak. just so everyone’s wires get crossed every 60 years or so. All cops are bastards, but whenever you have two of them, one of them can play the bad cop.

RonPaulyShore,
@RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net avatar

Yes. All Biden needs to secure is that small margin of normal, suburban whites. Trump will be on parade and on trial for months (as the media is on him and off Biden, the polls will correct themselves), the Republicans will have to defend their routinely rejected abortion policies, the Fed will turn the money tap back on and the economy vibes will be good. Biden has already whipped every threat from the left into shape, he just needs to pursue a policy of cruelty to outsiders and he’s got a comfortable W.

Philosoraptor,
@Philosoraptor@hexbear.net avatar

God damn how can he possibly fucking suck this fucking much?

Evilphd666,
@Evilphd666@hexbear.net avatar

The Democrats entire charde is [not Trump] and millions still fall for it.

Tachanka,
@Tachanka@hexbear.net avatar

this is the man who wrote a eulogy for strom thurmond and expressed a desire to invent israel if it didn’t exist.

Philosoraptor,
@Philosoraptor@hexbear.net avatar

Yeah, I know that, it’s just sort of breathtaking to see it in real time on an issue like this–like some sort of big natural catastrophe. A hurricane of fucking sucking.

SpiderFarmer,
@SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net avatar

Biden really had a chance to give Texas the taste of landmines and phosphorus and wussed out. I wonder…

us-foreign-policy

davel,
@davel@hexbear.net avatar

If you’re pushing away the anti-genocide and student loan burdened voters then you have to pull in the racist “independent” voters.

NephewAlphaBravo,

signing the Snipe Kids In The Desert bill and then immediately losing the election to the only guy who’s even antsier to snipe kids in the desert

SacredExcrement,

Fucker

mayo_cider,
@mayo_cider@hexbear.net avatar

I almost got in a fight with my friend, because I said that Trump is at worst the same as Biden

I’m looking forward to the discussion we planned for this, unfortunately my friend is a coward

Notcontenttobequiet,

I plan to have this argument over and over so we may as well get used to it

BurgerPunk,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

Just show him this brump

He will immediately have to accept you’re right

QuillcrestFalconer,

Ah yes, giving even more power to presidents, no way that’s going to be abused

Magician,
@Magician@hexbear.net avatar

Biden isn’t a tyrant if he changes the rules to redefine what legally makes someone a tyrant. Perfect system. No notes.

adultswim_antifa,
@adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net avatar

maybe-later-kiddo

I hate being right all the time.

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