NPC,

Locking this post because the discussion is not longer appropriate or productive.

stella,

Lucky guy.

Salamendacious,
@Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar
kalkulat,
@kalkulat@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, that poor victim.

TheBananaKing,

I’m just amazed that it was called ‘sexual abuse’ and not ‘an intimate relationship’, a ‘romp’, etc. like it usually is.

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s taken a while but looks like we’ll be able to call a sexual abuser a sexual abuser regardless of gender!

Pasta4u,

Was reading about one 49 year old who raped a 14 year old and just got probation. So women still get away with much worse than men.

EmpathicVagrant,

I mean regarding teachers that may seem like the case, but there’s preteen mothers that would like a word.

Most abusers don’t even get probation, if they’re reported at all.

Swim,

pedo!

Stopwatch8200,

What’s a pedo?

Swim,

pedophile noun pe·​do·​phile ˈpe-də-ˌfī(-ə)l ˈpē- : one affected with pedophilia

Stopwatch8200,

I thought it had something to do with feet.

According to wikipedia:

Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.


Is 14 generally considered to be ‘prepubescent’?

Swim,

Preadolescence is commonly defined as ages 9–12

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preadolescence

no but pretty close, still predatory as fuck.

SheeEttin,

I hate that I know this, but when it’s ~15-19, it’s ephebophilia.

Damaskox, (edited )
Damaskox avatar

Having sex with a minor doesn't automatically mean that you are a pedophile.

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Many people do it for other reasons, such as an act of showing power and supremacy over someone else while not having any (other) tendencies showing signs of pedophilia.
While a pedophile can live their whole life without meddling in with minors at all.

.

So I want to argue that pedophilia and molesting a child are two different things.

That being said - it is wrong to have sex with a child as an adult, no matter the reason (excluding those cases where a couple plead in court to have a relationship if the other person is mature enough when compared to their age).

davemeech,

Yikes

TheBananaKing,

This is one of those things that, if you feel the need to draw a distinction, you’re doing something wrong and need to stop.

stella,

No. You’re just someone who doesn’t want to acknowledge nuance if it doesn’t suit your agenda.

Glad I’ve come to recognize your kind for what they are.

Nudding,

You’re arguing for nuance in a thread about a grown woman raping a 14 year old child. You’ve left several comments saying how lucky the kid is. You are fucking disgusting.

stella,

Yeah. Thanks for proving my point.

Gonna block you now.

Nudding,

Good? You’re either a pedophile or a pedophile apologist. I reported you either way lol.

Szymon,

Just remember that you will be found, and you will not be treated well by those that you’re locked away with.

Zorque,

Anyone who doesn't want to know more about something their passionate about seems suspect to me.

Knowing these kinds of things can help discover the reasons for why they happen, and thus help prevent it in the future. Saying there's no point in discussing it is saying you don't actually want to do anything about it, you just want to be angry about it.

Szymon,

If the discussion is around getting help to prevent thoughts regarding sexualized children, then the conversation can happily continue.

If the conversation is about how it’s ok as long as you keep it to yourself, that’s an idiotic viewpoint as it disregards the fact that the content you seek is created by harming innocent victims.

Ideally you’ll find help, but I’ll be happy if you get brutalized daily in prison until you’re broken and comatose.

Zorque,

Ideally you’ll find help, but I’ll be happy if you get brutalized daily in prison until you’re broken and comatose.

Point proven. You care more about proving moral superiority than actually fixing issues. Why would someone come forward to find help if all they're met with is threats of violence and torture?

Damaskox, (edited )
Damaskox avatar

Knowledge can be pain.
Knowledge can also lead to learning something (new) and to make something better.

I'd say it's difficult to solve problems if you don't know, what is what or what is going on in the first place.
It's easier to help people overcome problems and to possibly treat deficiencies or non-normal behavior when you learn their story and when you start working on it together 🙂

Rhoeri,
@Rhoeri@lemmy.world avatar

Found the pedo.

Szymon,

And a few of their pedo friends or alternate accounts downvoting anyone that thinks children shouldn’t be the subject of sexual exploration.

Szymon,

Jesus fuck. A minor should have nothing sexual associated with them, in either your imagination or in their reality. There is no grey area.

Damaskox, (edited )
Damaskox avatar

I disapprove sexual acts of any kind towards underaged people.
I don't seek to defend people who do such acts.

.

That being said -
Acts and speech can harm people.
Thoughts that you keep to yourself and that will never make you do harm to anyone, no matter what kind of thoughts they are, should have no negative consequences to anybody else than you. What about you then? Well, it might depend... (and is another story)

I'd say it's (much) better to delve in ones fantasies while minding your own business and through that cope with whatever is going on in your mind than to mindlessly go and act on whatever you want to do without any consideration. Being it stealing cars or blowing up places or...flirt with a kid.
People need ways and tools to deal with whatever in a constructive way.

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Have you ever experienced a thought that someone might consider not being normal, or might even judge you about?

For instance - it's better to let steam off aggressiveness through violent games than to go out there and - well, I'm sure you understand my point by now.
Why should a lewd fictional story written on a paper be any different?

Szymon,

I hope the police find you before you decide that imagination isn’t enough one day. The entertainment of the thoughts isn’t controlled by everyone, and the content you claim is innocent leads many onto actual acts.

Get help, or remove yourself from society, before you hurt someone that has nothing to do with your illness.

Damaskox,
Damaskox avatar

...and the content you claim is innocent leads many onto actual acts.

Of course some people still go onto the path of no return and end up doing something sinister to somebody.
I would argue though that they already have (extra) challenges with their minds that push them over the edge to act on ill-adviced decisions.

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I am not suggesting anyone here to take advantage of kids. Or to do anything else harmful to anyone. I am merely trying to bring other points of views in here and say that thoughts alone should not incriminate anyone. Is that really punishable? I have already said in another comment that I don't defend people who act to hurt others.
Again - I define acts punishable only if they harm people. What's it to you whatever everybody is thinking or dreaming about when there is no evidence of nobody getting harmed from it?

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Hmm. You sound like you are referring to me with your accusations, accusing me of being a pedophile. Do my opinions and thoughts on the subject alone make you think that way?
I understand how you may feel about this. This is a difficult topic and many people are sensitive about it. The common, public opinion easily is to want to lock up everyone who even thinks towards a way many deem wrong, or even straight kill them. To strike down even the ones who never harmed anyone.
But I have the right to speak my mind, and I want to do that in a civilized, polite way without judging anybody (I only judge the actions, and the actions can be punishable). Not even you.
You also have your right of speaking up your mind, as you did.

But - at the end of the day, you can believe in whatever you make out of this conversation. I don't think I can affect your decisions once you're chosen in what to believe. And I won't try neither.
I wish you a good day 🙂Look after your loved ones, mate!

ZetaLightning94,

That is a horribly misleading headline when the write up clearly says she was 22 and he was 14 at the time. She is 31 now and he is now 22.

frickineh,

Sorry, are you saying it’s ok for a 22 year old to have sex with a 14 year old? I don’t really think there’s a big different in a 31 year old doing it vs a 22 year old, so I’m not sure that’s really the issue you should have with this article.

ZetaLightning94,

Never said that. I said that the title is wrong. Really shows a lack of quality of writing when the title of the article contradicts the article itself

frickineh,

The title doesn’t mention their ages. The subtitle is awkwardly phrased because it gives the student’s age at the time and her age now, but it’s not wrong, and again, I don’t really get why you’re quibbling about that when the point that it was an adult sexually abusing a child stands regardless.

SpaceNoodle,

It doesn’t need to be misleading.

Poggervania,
Poggervania avatar

But it doesn’t? It just says “when he was 14”, not “he is 14 and she is 31”.

The name and age of the lady in the little blurb under the title indicate her current age, not the age of when she did it.

Zorque,

Right after the age of the boy when she did, though. It's awkwardly phrased and misleading. Just because you can justify something by saying "it's not technically wrong" doesn't change that.

stella,

When I was 14, I would’ve loved to have sex with 22 year olds.

I think I would be much healthier if I had sex at an earlier age without sacrificing what I had to to get it.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I really don’t understand the psychology that pushes someone to do something like this. I suppose I should be glad about that

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Lots of reasons but it’s generally by women who lack a partner or don’t have thier emotional needs met. They don’t feel threatened by the child and confuse thier mentor/pupil relationship as love and as such doesn’t see thier abuse for what it is.

Tedesche,

Source? I’m sorry, but that kind of sounds like you’re letting female sexual abusers off the hook a bit by arguing their actions are innocent in their own minds. I don’t think these women are that stupid or deluded. I agree they find boys non-threatening, but I don’t think they construe their own manipulation of a young, naïve teenager as completely innocent. They know they’re taking advantage, they just don’t care.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

psychologytoday.com/…/female-teachers-sexual-pred…

But for female teachers, other motives may come into play: the desire to “care for” a male child from a broken home, which then de-evolves into sex; a need to feel attractive, wanted, and sexually desired by a young man, who may not have the capacity to understand or give real love, but certainly has the testosterone to provide sex; or even as revenge against a husband who is no longer emotionally supportive.

psychiatrictimes.com/…/lessons-learn-female-educa…

"Heterosexual nurturers” are women who develop sexual relationships with children and adolescents on the basis of feelings of love or a desire for intimacy. These women also often mistakenly assert that their behavior is not abusive.

Nonameuser678,
@Nonameuser678@aussie.zone avatar

Power and control.

stella,

Damn, I’d love a woman to control me like that.

EmpathicVagrant,

Children can’t consent.

stella,

Legally speaking, yes.

EmpathicVagrant,

“Like that” is an adult taking advantage of a child. Your comment is advocating statutory rape.

stella,

Lol, what?

I don’t know what your problem is man, but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree. Gonna block you now just to be safe.

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