pezmico,
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November 29 is the Innational Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People. 🍉

So don your Keffiyeh, pick up a free ebook and peruse one of the many resources to educate yourself and support the struggle for Palestinian freedom and dignity. 🇵🇸

https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/blogs/news/solidarity-with-palestine-free-resources-and-further-reading

https://www.haymarketbooks.org/blogs/495-free-ebooks-for-a-free-palestine

https://decolonizepalestine.com/

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!

@palestine

pezmico,
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Another good way to get on board the International Day of Solidarity with Palestinian People is to follow the OG Palestinian peaceful activism movement:

Boycott, Divest and Sanction and to support their campaigns by making sure your money (and your institution's money) is not supporting apartheid and war crimes. 🇵🇸

https://bdsmovement.net/
🍉
@palestine

pezmico,
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A song for the International Day of Solidarity with Palestinian People:

We will bring down all the walls separating our peoples!

Palestino y Latino... Hermanos!

Border Control - 47Soul ft Shadia Mansour x Fedzilla

https://youtu.be/iL11uPXsS4U


@palestine

pezmico,
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pezmico,
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Here's a lovely story based on Palestinian folklore by @SoniaSulaiman read by Margaret Killjoy.

Handala. The Olive, the Storm, and the Sea
https://pca.st/episode/913606d3-3bef-4709-b043-ec3c7af66b60

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starsandinfinity,
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@pezmico @palestine
For the record, I support Palestinian's right to having an own sovereign state. I do not support the eradication of the state of Israel.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine You just made two opposite statements. Israel's existence relies on Palestinians not being sovereign.

starsandinfinity,
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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
That's simply not true. A two state solution would give them both sovereignty and should be the goal.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine The only two-state solution Israel will accept is one where the Palestinian state is demilitarized (i.e. can't defend itself and exercise its sovereignty) and where the ruler is their puppet.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine Also the two-state solution doesn't solve the issue of the Palestinian diaspora that were kicked out of their homes from 1947 and going forward.

starsandinfinity,
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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
It's still the only solution I see in this situation. Also, what about the Jewish populations that have been displaced from every single Arab country? And where should the Jewish population of Israel go according to you?

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine A secular Palestinian state that is home to Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and other minorities) and Israelis is the only just solution I see. Settlers that refuse to live in a state that isn't an ethnostate can go back where they came from, just like what happened in South Africa.
PS: this is just my opinion and I'm not pretending to represent what Palestinians want.

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
Excuse me for being doubtful when Jewish people have been displaced from every single Muslim country in the world that this is going to work.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine "Every single Muslim country"? Not true.
It was partly due to a reaction to the Zionist crimes against Palestinians (not defending it, just putting things in context) and partly due to Zionist propaganda trying to recruit Jews from all over the world because they're obsessed with demographics.

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
Jewish populations in Muslim countries have been the victims of violence and persecution time and time again. And hate crimes against Jewish people skyrocketing all over the world make prove once again that, yes, we do need a state that is a safe haven for Jewish people.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine Okay, since you insist to go that route, Jewish populations in Muslim lands were historically better treated than their counterparts in Christian lands. That is a fact.
Also, when Europeans colonized Muslim countries, part of their divide and conquer strategy was to discriminate between Muslims and Jews by giving Jews more rights than Muslims.

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
Also, there are plenty of Israelis who were born in Israel. Where are they supposed to "go back to"?

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine Read what I wrote again. Israelis who want to stay can stay. I couldn't care less about those who are there to establish an ethnostate.

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
Then there need to be efforts to change this. From my perspective it's also not true that all Israelis thinks like that. Giving one side sovereignty by displacing the other isn't the answer.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine You mean the Palestinians that were being displaced starting from 1947 ?

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
I mean that both ethnic groups have historical claims to and a right to live on this land, so it is crucial to find a way that makes a peaceful coexistence of Israel and a Palestinian state possible.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine What historical claim does a Russian Jew has to Palestine? Religion? Are we going to base land claims on religion?

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
We can base it on the fact that there has been a Jewish population living in this area since ancient times and that this population has a right to their own state. No we don't have to base land claims on religion but since so many other countries are doing a horrible job of making Jewish people feel safe and welcome I definitely see the necessity that a safe haven for Jewish people exists.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine So North Africans have the right to claim Spain given that they once lived there? Tunisia has the right to claim Sicily given that it was part of Carthage? Russia has the right to claim Ukraine given that it was part of the Russian empire? This logic will lead us to endless wars.
Also why a safe haven for Jews does have to be on the ruins of Palestinian villages? How convenient for the Europeans who aren't paying the price for the crimes committed on Jews!

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
Why do Palestinian muslims have a right to their own state but not Jewish people? Both have been living in this land since ancient times. Why would you give one a state but not the other?

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine Because Palestinians (not only Muslims as I previously said) are indigenous to that land. Palestinians who lived there before the Zionist occupation include Jews btw. Jews who didn't come as colonizers to establish an ethnostate.

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
I don't think we're going to change each other's minds here, so I'm going to leave it at that. Anyway, take care!

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@ghazi @pezmico @palestine
Given the current reality I very much doubt that a secular Palestinian state with a muslim majority, that affords equal rights to all religions as well as queer people (Israel is the only country in the region where you can live openly queer) is a realistic vision.

ghazi,
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@starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine I see that the hierarchy of rights that matter for you is the following:
Jews > (non-Palestinian) Queer people >>>> Palestinians

WahbAllat,

@starsandinfinity @ghazi @pezmico @palestine

that safe haven is not going to be in the Middle East

ghazi,
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@WahbAllat @starsandinfinity @pezmico @palestine Makes me remember what Seth Rogen said:
"You don’t keep something you’re trying to preserve all in one place especially when that place has proven to be pretty volatile."

NoFlexZone,
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@starsandinfinity hey, which settler colony do you live in.

@ghazi @pezmico @palestine the reason colonizers have to stand with Israel is because if popular support can unmake one colonial capitalist country, all risk the same fate.

To be clear all colonial capitalist countries should die.

morpheo,

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Israel has been proving that truth for more than seven decades.

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pezmico,
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starsandinfinity,
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@pezmico @palestine
It's entirely possible to express solidarity with Palestinians without calling for the eradication of Israel and displacement of the Jewish population. In the "river from the sea" scenario, where are Jewish people supposed to go and live?

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@pezmico @palestine I did not read your specific proposal, so I don't want to judge quickly, but the phrase "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!" is clearly asking to remove Israel and we just have seen what Hamas is going to do with its population. Please remove at least this antisemitic, nationalistic statement.

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