Hossenfeffer,
@Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk avatar

When Netflix had (seemingly) everything I was totally cool and the gang with paying for that service.

Now I have:

  • Netflix
  • Amazon Prime
  • Apple TV
  • Disney+
  • NowTv
  • fuck knows what else

and I still can’t find the content I want to watch. I had an urge to watch The Good, The Bad And The Ugly the other day. Could I find it on any services I pay a combined £50+ a month for? Could I fuck. Why would they be surprised they’re pushing people to ‘alternative’ sources? Sure, I can rent or buy Barbie and Oppenheimer if I want, but I don’t want. What I want is access to the tens of thousands of old, excellent, films that have been made.

Bronzie,

My NAS literally arrived today.
I’m done.

Been paying for years but it’s becomming equally predatory as linear TV so I’m out.

weirdo_from_space,

I need to continue the dollars trilogy, A Fistful of Dollars was pretty good.

Hossenfeffer,
@Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk avatar

For A Few Dollars More is so-so (but I’d still watch it again), but The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is epic.

And if you enjoy them, then take a crack at High Plains Drifter or Pale Rider which are both excellent though share an underlying theme. The Outlaw Josey Wales is also well worth a watch, as is the magnificent (and best picture Oscar winner) Unforgiven starring and directed by an older, wiser, and grittier Clint Eastwood.

weirdo_from_space,

Definitely will check out High Plains Drifter and Magnificent Seven. Pale Rider and Unforgiven are already on the list along with Gran Torino. Also already watched The Outlaw Josey Wales, it was a really good movie.

Hossenfeffer,
@Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk avatar

You might also want to add Yojimbo and The Seven Samurai to your list too - they’re the Kurasawa films that A Fistful of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven are western (in both senses) remakes of.

weirdo_from_space,

I watched Yojimbo already (which I personally found to be mediocre). I’m actually planning of watching Seven Samurai before Magnificent Seven.

HipHoboHarold,

That’s honestly one of the biggest wtf things to me. Movies like that are old as fuck. How many people are still buying the DVD? Or paying to rent it? Not talking down on the movie itself. There’s a reason it’s still talked about. But honestly, it’s not making much, if anything.

Why not have it throw up on a streaming service? At that point, if I had the rights, and Netflix said they would pay me like $200 a week, I would probably still do it. That’s probably $200 more than what it’s currently making a week. Netflix gets to have it for cheap. And then the people who want to watch it get to.

But yet its a problem for us to pirate it?

NaNABCV,

Just pay for your content, it’s not that hard sheesh

AFC1886VCC,

no

DeadNinja,
@DeadNinja@lemmy.world avatar

I hope you noticed that the key phrase in your comment is “your content

Good luck claiming any of the content on the streaming platforms as “your”

ExperimentalGuy,

There are a lot of times where my privacy set up, which isn’t anything fancy, precludes me from watching something. That coupled with the fact that prices have been consistently rising in our late stage shit system, you have to realize at some point that the same system that drives companies to scrape every possible iota of a profit out of users is the same system that makes people equally not want to be gutted financially and have every data point about themselves be out on an open market. Complacency doesn’t change anything.

theblueredditrefugee,

Cringe

TheBlue22,

If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing.

MasterNerd,
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

I think you missed the OP’s point about the ongoing enshitification of paid services. From the words of Gabe Newell, "The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”

The reason why so many people are pirating even when they can afford it is because companies continue to make their services worse for their paying customers. Simply “paying for your content” will encourage these companies to continue their predatory, behavior.

Edit: I think I should add this isn’t really true if you can buy physical copies of the content, but that’s becoming less and less of an option as large streaming services make sure the only way to watch their content legally is buying their shitty subscriptions

DeadNinja,
@DeadNinja@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t exactly recall when or where I heard/read this quote, but man it is dope

  • "it should not be a concern when people pirate your content, it should be when people don’t even want to pirate your content"
mechoman444,

Piracy has changed so much. Back when people were making the transition from p2p to torrents there was very little if any streaming sites.

Nowadays if you sneeze hard enough you’re bound to spray down some big name streaming service.

Now there are even whole front ends that allow you to stream whatever you want anytime you want even on a little, but very powerful handheld computer.

I would say that 12% is more on the low end. If you were to factor in ad blocking and the various front ends I mentioned earlier I could see that number going up much higher.

Wenchette,
@Wenchette@lemmy.ml avatar

Flixtor

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe people would pirate less if you let them keep what they pay for.

Quexotic,

If buying isn’t owning…

sfgifz,

You’re buying… A temporary permission to access certain content.

Quexotic,

…then piracy isn’t theft.

camelbeard,

No it’s just borrowing, it’s temporary anyway, I recently looked at some movies on a very old harddisk and it was like DVD quality or worse. Threw the entire disk out.

Quexotic,

I don’t know if it’s even borrowing, really. If you borrow my drill, I can’t use it. If you torrent a movie… Like… You’re seeding, and more people can use it!

HuntressHimbo,

It’s almost like our economics models with supply and demand barely work for physical products and are even worse at modelling easily reproducible digital goods

Quexotic,

Naaaah, probably just a coincidence, best not to think about such things. /S

Wage_slave,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

Not gonna lie, if you asked me what I would think the increase would be and I would have assumed it be a lot higher.

But then again, that could be the part of the pirate crew that doesn’t use a VPN and is easily identified upon entering the site.

Scrollone,

I agree. These stats are to be taken with a grain of salt.

Personally, I saw an extreme increase among my peers in piracy, streaming and Plex servers.

shneancy,

don’t need to use a VPN when my country could not fucking care less about piracy. Hell, some major chain shops here run pirated windows

asimpleman,

Paying up to 23$ a month (not including other streaming services) to watch maybe 5% of the shows and movies I’m interested in just didn’t seem like a good deal after a while.

AnAngryAlpaca, (edited )

Nope, you need more than 1 subscription, because quite often services only offer a few of the seasons of your favorite show, while the others are on different services.

Example: pokemon.com/…/where-to-watch-pokemon-episodes-mov…

asimpleman,

Kind of what I meant as being a problem but thanks I guess.

Olgratin_Magmatoe,

And for those that are able to keep to just one subscription, switching to another when they’ve finished watching whatever show it is that said service had, they aren’t safe either.

One of the next steps that these corporations are going to take is to add fees for dropping their services, with year long contracts.

They don’t want competition, so they will try to force you to stay.

Moonrise2473,

LOL if it wasn’t on the official website I’d have assumed it was a joke.

Would you:

  1. Subscribe to Netflix for watching the first season
  2. Then subscribe to prime video and then subscribe again to a specific channel to watch season 2
  3. Cancel that useless extra subscription to the prime video optional paid channel to watch seasons 3-9
  4. Subscribe again to that channel to watch seasons 10-16
  5. Subscribe to Hulu to watch seasons 17-19
  6. Subscribe to the Roku channel to watch seasons 20-22
  7. Hope that they don’t alter the licensing deals during your view or you gonna subscribe to something else

Or… Just click on “get all missing episodes” on sonarr?

NikkiDimes,

EIGHT different services? That is some corporate greed bullshit right there.

Pika,

I know a lot of people who are sailing the Seas until the streaming Market crashes. There’s way too many businesses trying to do the same exact thing which has limited the media selection available without paying multiple $12 a month subscriptions. Eventually they will either fold or merge together again

RippleEffect,

Ironically this is a double edged sword. If they merge, expect prices to rise. Won’t be long before $100/mo is expected and accepted.

criticalcentrist,

Perfect time for any aspiring system admin to create another piracy website (something I’ve been working out the kinks on)

matey,

Podcast focused, please. We’re in desperate need of one.

t0fr,
@t0fr@lemmy.ca avatar

Why do we need a podcast focused server. Podcasts for the most part are free. Just need a client like AntennaPod and listen away

matey,

They’re not, though. The back catalog of many is locked away, and we lost many of those altogether when Stitcher shut down.

Clearly, if I could just listen away, I would be doing that. Just as clearly, we need a way to archive and share all of this.

ratcliff,

Sometimes piracy is the only method of archival

Scrollone,

Some things are literally not available anymore by legal means. Piracy is an important tool in preserving content for future generations. Future historian will be proud of pirates.

Aurora_TheFirstLight,

Absolutely true, I was actually looking for this flash game mike shadow and the vending machine and it’s partly lock cause reasons, pirates where you at

NikkiDimes,

I really want to show my friend the original Fullmetal Alchemist series, but Funimation has completely replaced it with the newer Brotherhood series everywhere. It’s such bullshit. I would be happy to pay them to watch it, but literally the only option is piracy.

Daft_ish,

And will continue.

dasgoat,

This gives me hope

MaxPower,

1 of those 12% is just me lol /s

Grass,

I get pissed at my family for being traditional hoarders but I somewhat inherited that as a data hoarder. The amount of stuff I have pirated over the years and not actually used or watched is hilarious.

madcaesar,

What are we taking TB wise?

sin_free_for_00_days,

I have about 10TB of stuff. Around 600 movies and not quite 200 TV series. I’m planning on leaving societies embrace and being away from it all in a couple of weeks and have been hoarding stuff to keep me entertained, if needed. I’m not the one you asked, but here you go. I don’t really feel like I have a ton of stuff, from a datahoarder perspective, but probably a little more than the average torrent monster.

madcaesar,

Hm are those high res movies? 10 TB seems to small

sin_free_for_00_days,

Kind of all over the place, but mostly 1080 or so. Here’s a little data:

I have 48 movies that are 1.7G, 43 that are 1.5G, and so on.


<span style="color:#323232;"># of movies   SIZE
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     48 1.7G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     43 1.5G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     33 1.9G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     31 2.2G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     31 2.0G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     30 1.6G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     27 1.8G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     25 1.4G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     21 2.1G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     19 2.5G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     16 1.3G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     14 2.6G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     14 2.3G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     12 2.4G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     10 2.8G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">      9 3.0G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">      9 1.1G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">      8 4.1G
</span><span style="color:#323232;">     ...
</span>
Grass,

Probably around 30tb but all in, but drives being from 400gb to 8 tb of varying age and make. Most are just shelved and in the off chance I want something from them they get hot swapped in the dock thing

CalicoJack,

Same here. But on the bright side, at least data hoarding doesn’t take up a ton of physical space.

user224,

Well, it does if you do a lot.

Thermal_shocked,

Just upgraded my truenas and plex to 8tb drives. 1600+ movies, 60+ TV series, 40,000 songs. I seed as much as I can, have uploaded over 5TB this month alone. Come get some.

glencairn84,

I haven’t used Torrents in years, since subscribing to Netflix. But I’m fed up with needing to pay 5+ different subscriptions to get coverage across shows, so perhaps time to think about other options. What are some of the best torrent sites today,?

Thermal_shocked, (edited )

I use OnTheSpot downloader to grab albums from spotify at 320kbps - github.com/casualsnek/onthespot

Use Soulseek (nicotine+) to grab more obscure stuff. Can get everything on there, just sometimes slower and not as reliable as a torrent.

I use these sites for movies, in order of convenience:

ytssss.jamsbase.com (basically just YTS)

www.magnetdl.com (search sucks, but if you get used to it, it has huge libraries of TV series)

en.torrentgalaxy-official.site

rargb.to

1337x.to/home/

psa.wf (PSA RIPS)

I don’t really download apps anymore, so malware really isn’t an issue, but make sure you’re using UBlockOrigin plugin and a VPN like TorGuard

criticalcentrist,

1337x and YTS are preferred for me. No sign up/log in BS

Fred,

Could try the *arr software. Sonarr is tv, radarr is movies and lidarr is music. You can use jackett to act as an indexer and it will automatically grab the shows.

SwingingTheLamp,

Could try the *arr software.

Haha, do you ever feel like the last one to get the joke? I do sometimes.

nolight,

My friends and I have been joking too much about this naming scheme without even mentioning what appears to be the intentional meaning… I feel rather dumb.

SkippingRelax,

I’ve used them for a very long time, maybe a decade if they have been around that long, could be a bit less. I’ve seen them referred to as the *arr suite/software many times. I didn’t know there was a joke to get until you pointed it out, I’m still facepalming.

So you are not the last one.

In my defence, I’m not a native speaker, but still…

Thermal_shocked,

yeah, i’ve thought about it. but it’s cathartic to find music/movies, download and organize them, choose artwork in Plex, things like that. I’ve got them all organized in media monkey.

Poem_for_your_sprog,

96KHz audio or bust.

Thermal_shocked, (edited )

oh god, the difference between some of my old rips at 128 and 320 is damn near night and day. i though the song just sucked, but the quality was just shit. also found a track that got corrupt, but still played, but at 1/10th the speed, it was about 30 minutes long, but normally only 3 lol. just stretched the fuck out of it.

chillsmeit,

Regarding music, there’s also the slavart discord and their bot which allows you to download music from different streaming services in lossless formats

asimpleman,

You can also use this site for DDL’s if you’d prefer them. No ads or premium and actively updated: dhokla.net.

rengoku,

What you say is exactly what I feel.

When I pay for a service, as long as I abide by the ToS, service provider should give me their products in full.

Your protection should not violate my right.

FleetingTit,

Cracking down on account sharing has sent lots of people sailing as well, and market fragmentation.

WanderingVentra,

Netflix turning off account sharing is what sent me to the high seas. Disney+ doing the same will push me over even more.

AWittyUsername,

Is there anything with pirating on Disney+?

Daft_ish,

I could pirate all of Disney+ and never watch a damn thing.

Am childless.

Bronzie,

I’m rewatching some old stuff on there as we speak.

Burn Notice, White Collar, Lie to Me. All great shows. Loki was good too.

Have cancelled it to run my own media server from now on though.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget ads.

I’d happily pay for anything I consume if it were convenient, private, and no ads. Since I can’t get that anymore, well, it’s the high seas for me. I pay as much for high seas related services as I would for the official streamers, but the experience is 10x better.

BobGnarley,

This is the number one reason I won’t ever pay for a netflix subscription (or others) again. Pay for 4K but you dont get 4K if you want to watch on your laptop or android streaming box that they don’t approve of. Like how much fucking greedier could you be? Fuck them I hope they all go the way of blockbuster soon.

rickyrigatoni,

I wonder what happened in those four years that gave people a lot of time to watch movies but not a lot of money to pay for them 🤔

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