Kid_Thunder,

Funny how they conflate actual slavery with 'wage slaves' which is something totally different and also wasn't different in the south at the time anyway.

Slaves were also not guaranteed food, housing nor even life. Conforming slaves got the minimum of those things so that they could continue being slaves.

Unfortunately, when I was growing up in the south, this sort of bullshit was actually being taught in schools.

bigbluealien,
bigbluealien avatar

Worse than that, conforming slaves got the housing they made, the food they grew

feedum_sneedson,

I like it, it’s creative.

Assman,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Haha he slipped up saying “wage slave”, as in a person who is paid money for working and is allowed to quit.

DragonTypeWyvern,

The concept of “wage slavery” refers to the idea that many people are not free to quit a bad job unless they enjoy being homeless and starving. Or having their kids be homeless and starving for that matter. Given this period was prior to the labor movement in America it’s more fitting than I think a lot of people would want to admit, even if the rest of his argument bounces between equal parts of distasteful, ignorant, and insane.

Also, he’s just flat out ignoring that poor Southern whites existed as well, often in even worse straits than their Northern equivalents because they had to compete with actual slave labor.

I don’t really like the term for exactly this juxtaposition. It’s just disrespectful to the sheer scale of cruelty in chattel slavery, and opens your arguments to pedantic types who will ignore any reasonable points you have to quibble about your questionable word choice.

KpntAutismus,

is that copium i smell? or even rationalization gas?

bigbluealien,
bigbluealien avatar

Fuck it, this isn't going away, can we appropriate "Northern Aggresion" to mean anti slavery? You want to keep slaves? You're about to get some Northern Agression. It seems justified but that might just be me

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

I'd be more for it, but I like emphasizing that the dumbshits shot first at Fort Sumter.

pimento64,

What do you suppose this confederate means by “Union bankers”?

AllNewTypeFace,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

Also, these “union bankers”: do they have prominent noses and a tendency to say “oy vey” by any chance?

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

I don't know, but my dog freaks the fuck out every time he says it. Must be a coincidence.

Bakkoda,

If they could read they would have no idea.

Sorgan71,

Bro is marching to the beat of his own drum for real

Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug,

You can tell this person is reasonably intelligent. They are articulate enough to present this as an actual argument.

And yet they’re still capable of falling into fallacy and propaganda.

Just a reminder that this is the type of person to watch out for in real life. This is an obvious example, but intelligent sounding people are still susceptible to such bullshit, and theyre the ones who do the best to make it sound right.

WaxedWookie,

American diabolism is a hell of a drug.

There’s plenty wrong with the US if that’s your concern, and no need to invent the kind of brain-rot that leads to takes like “I want to move from the US to the DPRK because they actually respect workers.”

DragonTypeWyvern,

You really need to understand that people that just be lying sometimes.

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