You’d best believe that these misguided folks are somehow finding lots of new faces wearing red hats offering them lots of “free” money the past two months.
He’s literally actively prosecuting a genocide against Palestinians, is there no low liberals won’t sink to? Arab Americans should vote for the man literally murdering their families?
Why no. Naturally, they’ll want to ensure Trump can become an authoritarian dictator… 'cos that will make lives really good for them, right? Also, I disagree with your premise that Biden is prosecuting a genocide.
He’s sending them weapons that they are using to carry out a genocide in front of the whole world. What should be done about it if not voting for Genocide Joe is too radical?
That’s funny, I’m sure you will say that Russia isn’t doing genocide in Ukraine, despite there being much more evidence of it, including their leader openly stating that Ukrainian identity needs to be eradicated.
Being against Biden doesn’t mean being for Trump. You can’t expect people in power to look out for your interests and opinions if you keep rewarding them for not being as shit as the worst of them.
And Biden is helping the genocide go on by choosing not to at least condemn Israel’s actions (though that would be the definition of a limp dicked response). Though a stronger response would be better.
It's a lot easier to stick your fingers in your ears in go "LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU ITS TOO CONFUSING" than it is to come to terms with the fact that your own ignorance has been actively helping the death march towards fascism we've been on.
That’s actually entirely true, we could be dealing with a Biden vs DeSantis election in '24. In which case being against Biden wouldn’t mean being for Trump; it would mean being for DeSantis.
You’re being hysterical. Trump was not a dictator when he was in the White House before, he’s not some Hitler figure. If your ideology needs these kinds of catastrophizing fantasies to make sense, maybe it isn’t helping you.
Not to mention how is this going to play out? Biden loses and those same people will end up deported or in camps. It is not like Trump or the GOP wont turn their knives in a moment. I get being mad about Biden not doing the right thing but trying to sabotage the only candidate that still believes in the impartial rule of law is short sighted, to say the least.
So we should just sit back and let Trump take thr reins? He has laid out his next 4 years and it aint pretty. As much as I do not like Biden why would I allow an unabashed monster to destroy what remains of the country?
I love how liberals think of themselves as the ultimate moral arbiters, the good guys ready to do serious business and get shit done, and simply have no opinion about the United States committing genocide but shaking their heads sadly and then dismissing anyone who cares as unrealistic and self destructive.
Because I don’t want the country I live in to burn, my friends to be murdered for not supporting an orange dictator, and my family to have to flee to escape persecution, I must be a lib? Please. My argument isn’t with you, friend. I’m just tired of purity test politics that let the lowest of the low win elections.
Have you really gotten yourself to believe that the country would be “destroyed” by Trump? Would it be “destroyed” or would you just see headlines you don’t like while your life remains largely unaffected until the next election rolls around?
No, he wants to kill people like me and others. He has been clear on this point. Why would you assume he wouldn’t do it? He won’t have the basic guardrails he had the first time around.
Of course its fucking deranged. The fact I have to choose between two out of touch octogenarians is bonkers. All I am saying is one is bad for a middling response to condemning a war perpetuated by a different country, supported by our arms with very little he can do. Big D dems are grappling with an internally polarized electorate that he doesnt know how to make happy. Hes an old politician doing the best he can. Or you can sit home ans let an angry tryant that has expressly laid out his plans for genocide in our own country. No amount of protest or wish fufillment thinking will get the DNC to back anyone besides Biden. Its the same tunnel vision that happened with Hillary in 2016. Refusing to play dooms us all. Do i like this? Fuck no. But I dont want to watch my trans friends run to Canada to live.
But I dont want to watch my trans friends run to Canada to live.
i’m trans and i live in florida. i am currently preparing to flee my home of 30+ years because democrats, despite being in power while a whole roster of anti-trans laws have been passed, have done nothing to protect us. don’t fucking use trans people as a bludgeon to beat others into supporting a pack of monsters who view us as not worth protecting.
One useful thing this conflict has done is reveal who would have absolutely, 100% been fine with Hitler’s policies when living in Nazi Germany. Not even the ongoing extermination of the Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank - millions of people - is sufficient to snap you out of your election fetishism? Biden is continuing most of Trump’s policies. He’s building Trump’s wall. The suite of laws opposing the LGBTQIA+ community is happening under his presidency. Deportations and child imprisonment at record pace. Abortion rights were lost under his watch. The only reaction you are capable of having to this is “Well, imagine how much worse it would be if Trump was the one doing it!” because this is all a giant game to you. You don’t have to focus on basic survival, on keeping yourself alive and fed for the next month, and thus considering possibilities outside of the finely-curated electoral circus that your eyes were so expertly programmed to consume. If you were actually affected by any of these policies, you wouldn’t be arguing between President Who Will Take My Rights Away #1 and #2, you would be trying to form organizations and survival networks to survive the storm. Any mental or physical effort spent on these elections is wasted energy.
You are the most pliant, brainwashed people in human history. You are completely content to watch every minority around you get fed into the grinder because it’s “lesser evillism”. First they came for the trans people. Then they came for the immigrants. Then they came for the black people. Then they came for me, and as I got on the train on the way to the gigantic human flesh grinding machine, I thought “Well, at least Mango Mussolini isn’t putting me on this train! Boy, if the Republicans were doing this, it would REALLY be fascism!”
Genuine question - how many people would Biden have to kill for you to not support him anymore? A million? Ten million? A hundred million? A billion?
Yeah the folks on the right saying that every single Palestinian should be killed are obviously much better than the folks on the left who simply don’t care
Oh boy. Do you want to enlighten me on how American “leftists” are actually still right of center on an international scale, and how American Democrats are further right than many countries’ right wing parties? Or do you think maybe there was an implicit American before that “left,” since we’re talking about American politics?
Yup, I think we should let the guy who’ll probably draft me to go kill more Muslims win the white house, that’s obviously better than voting for the guy who doesn’t care if Muslims die. I mean, wouldn’t you rather be made to serve your country and kill Muslims without that Democrat-voting blood on your hands? Sure, I’m flying towards the middle east to shoot some brown kids in the head, but at least I didn’t help that genocide supporter win
We’re all the way back in 2001 now. War on terror talking points about Muslims engaging in self sabotage if they don’t listen to the enlightened liberals are fair game now apparently.
I won’t comment much further because I’m not American, but this is just smug nonsense . To assume that you know better than the people currently suffering. Many whose friends and family are currently being killed by bombs manufactured in the US, and shipped to Israel under the watchful eye of the current US president. Of course they are going to be against Biden!
We’re really going to be reliving the war on terror talking points now. Oh no if Muslims don’t do exactly as I say they’re engaging in self sabotage.
If these voters are so important to Biden and if he cares about their humanity, the rational thing to do would be to stop the shipment of US military arms and equipment to Israel, until Israel changes its behaviour. It was done to one apartheid state in the past, it can be done to another.
Oh no if Muslims don’t do exactly as I say they’re engaging in self sabotage.
Clearly Gaza under Hamas was indulging in self-sabotage. Did they have to be told not to slaughter, rape, and kidnap 1200+ civilians, shooting many who tried to surrender? Do they need to be reminded that Israel's reprisals are predictable and harsh every time they declare failed war on them?
Clearly Muslims who support Trump, either tacitly or explicitly, are indulging in self-sabotage. Do they have to be told how first past the post voting works, or how Trump regards them, or what he promised to do?
This group and their allies seem really big on self-sabotage, frankly.
Hussein said Muslim leaders acknowledge that not supporting Biden could result in the re-election of former President Trump, who is disliked by many Muslim Americans because of his racist retweets about them and his efforts to ban Muslims from migrating to the U.S.
“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”
The Republicans will happily accept the support you give them to fucking you over.
Obviously, like some other commenter said, Muslim-Americans, led by me, will commit voter fraud in the United States by not voting for Biden or Trump a maobillion times, and wasting their vote on someone else in the primairies…
Wait next November, where they’ve hid their voting registration equipment in their chest and anal cavity, as done by the North Korean and Russian gov’t handlers and funders…
It’s also an absolutely ridiculous thing to ask of Muslim voters in the US to vote for Biden. Many of them have colleagues, friends and family being killed in Gaza right now by US made bombs. Why would they ever vote for the guy signing off on that! Of course they’re going to hate him. One would have to live outside of reality to think otherwise.
If it’s inconvenient for Biden’s political strategy, maybe he should have thought of that beforehand.
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