kaffiene,

Try being a programmer in the 90s. Just like that but with no entries at all

thecodeboss,

Tried it on Bing too for comparison, 4th result and it’s actually the current version.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/afc7f7f8-ab70-4b1f-8f09-36f01293035d.png

jonasw,

Kagi:

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/c1456a12-871e-4fda-8e50-716eb0d7de6d.png

First result is the official documentation with the page that contains information about the in operator

This was the result: www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/functions.html

BUT it is the documentation for 9.0

Though if I would use postgresql documentation very often I could just use the Kagi feature that rewrites URLs with a regex, so I can replace it always with the latest version.

Kagi Documentation for that feature:

help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html#redire…

Some use cases of redirects include:

  • Change domains to a preferred domain (reddit.com to old.reddit.com)
  • Fixing links to outdated documentation with bad SEO
  • Rewriting proxied pages (like Google AMP) to their source URL
  • Changing any http link to https
uis,

How did google manage to be worse than yandex?

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/d83c34c2-8195-4856-aeea-da36e9d90f64.webp

I_Clean_Here,

Stop using Google, dumbass.

jezza,

This is why I’ve really grown attached to Kagi (paid search engine).

It’s made the internet usable again. I’m honestly surprised how much of difference there is. I’d really recommend people give it a shot. (there’s a free trial for it)

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/dfa66024-5355-4a15-8528-c22748acdfda.png

meliaesc,

A paid search engine… 🤔

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Many people would prefer a paid service over an ad supported one.

Emmie,

Maybe don’t use google. Kagi, ddg handle it fine

hightrix,

This is the real answer. Stop using Google search.

Vilian,

read the official docs, and don’t use google anymore, seriously, any technical question duckduckgo/ecosia can answer better because they use bing search engine

Wiz,

We need a human-curated Internet search. A wiki of good web content.

blusterydayve26,

That is (was) DMOZ: the Mozilla Directory of websites, now curlie.org, after AOL shut it down in 2017.

They have a Patreon if you want to help them maintain it.

MystikIncarnate,

It makes me sad because Google used to be great. The main feature that made Google great was the click rejection. Basically the search would know when you clicked on a link and didn’t come back to the search results. This action would add weight to that result as “this probably has the information that was being searched for” so it would be nearer to the top later when others made similar queries.

This was their killer feature, it basically crowd sourced the correct information. After a small amount of time, the correct results would kind of float to the top so subsequent searches would put those results near the top to help satisfy queries faster.

Now? They seem to want to give you results that satisfy their partners, and keep you tied to the results page as long as possible. The focus seems to have shifted from being a good search engine with accurate results, to a meme of how to make money.

Never before has this shift been more clear to me than right now, directly in the wake of I/O 2024; an event my friends have taken to calling AI/O. Pretty much every single presentation was about Gemini and AI generated garbage, but this isn’t what made Google’s new direction clear to me. In the last 20-30 minutes of the event it was made perfectly clear what they were doing with I/O. And to drive the point home, every I/O has showcased stuff you can’t use yet, stuff they’re working on, and other cool shit. Some of it cost money, but there was usually some stuff that was just done because it could be done and it would be made available at some point, a nontrivial amount of it was free. At AI/O, the entire focus was on AI, with little to no non-AI stuff in there, at all, then at the end, they kicked everyone in the shorts. Here’s our prices to access this shit. Buy it. As far as I’m concerned AI/O was a gigantic marketing circle jerk to sell their AI.

It seems that Google has entered the final phases of enshittification.

boonhet,

Saw an article that said that some execs demanded for search to have better user retention. I.e make the user search multiple times to find what they’re looking for, so they can be shown more ads.

Asafum,

I can’t wait for this to spread to unrelated areas!

Supermarkets maximizing profit: put ads everywhere and hide the most commonly bought foods!

Gas stations maximizing profits: unskippable ads on all pumps, plus the pump stops halfway to make you watch another ad.

Dating apps: oh… They already killed themselves. Swipe swipe swipe swipe. Hide messages. Hide likes. Reduse exposure to profile unless paid member.

I hate this future.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Supermarkets maximizing profit: put ads everywhere and hide the most commonly bought foods!

Many supermarkets already do things like putting the milk and bread at opposite sides of the store, so you have to walk through the whole store to get both. You’d often be walking past the end caps while doing so, which are essentially ads (companies pay to have their products displayed at the end caps)

brisk,

Just in case you’re not just satirically listing things that are already awful;

Supermarkets increase their “retention” by limiting signage to keep you wandering and avoid “just get that thing and go” shopping. I don’t know how common this is, but when I was a kid the major supermarkets had long lists of what items were in each aisle, plus highly visible signs in the aisle to show exactly where each category was. Now days at the major chains those in aisle signs are completely gone, and the categories have been whittled down to a few major categories; most products aren’t represented on the sign at all e.g. you have to assume “cake mix/decorating” are in the same aisle as “flour”.

Unskippable ads on all pumps are absolutely a thing that are getting more popular. Mobil is particularly bad for it in my experience.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Unskippable ads on all pumps are absolutely a thing that are getting more popular

I never see these in my area… Maybe only some places have them?

nucleative,

Because after taking a quick look at that first or second page, I don’t even go back. I just head to another search engine 😅

Ultraviolet,

I remember how people used to joke about the second page of Google results being a desolate wasteland where no one ever looks, now I just instinctively scroll down a bit because I know the first page of results is going to be trash.

phoenixz,

This is why I jumped ship to DuckDuckGo like 4-5 years ago already, never looked back

Coincidentally, yesterday I was quickly setting up a new computer for some testing whilst talking to somebody about another so I was half distracted. I did a search for some package to install and got absolute unusable crap. I didn’t understand, tried again, tried different search parameters and it just got worse, and then I noticed that, since this was a new computer, the browser was using google.

I switched to DDG, and first page first hit was what I needed.

DDG also has been in a steady decline and apparently has been using Bing as it’s back-end now. I’d love to use a self hosted open source browser, or of not that, an open source federated search engine, akin to Lemmy, but I don’t see either coming into existence anytime soon.

Vilian,

DDG always used bing backend tho, what’s happening is bing backend worsening

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

apparently has been using Bing as it’s back-end now.

A lot of stuff uses Bing to search, as it’s the largest search engine with an official public API that any developer can just sign up and use. Voice assistants like Alexa use Bing too.

Anticorp,

Because Google decided years ago that relevancy is less important than profitability.

refalo,

Who are they profiting off of? I have never clicked an ad in my entire life.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Some of the ads are charged by CPM (cost per 1000 impressions), meaning Google get paid just because people see the ads. That’s similar to how ads in traditional media are billed - TV, billboards, newspapers, etc.

Not all ads use CPM though. Some use CPC (cost per click) and some use CPA (cost per action).

bolexforsoup,

SEO ruined the S

mindbleach,

E ruined themselves. They push generic garbage on certain keywords, no matter how specific the rest is.

samara,

“The Man Who Killed Google Search”

www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

fmstrat,

Postgres is a weird one. The first link probably answers the query, just click the latest version (or your version) once you are there.

The problem is probably so many systems run old versions, so the results skew.

laughterlaughter,

It doesn’t matter. List all the crap you want, but show me the most up to date official documentation for the postgres “IN” operator in the very first result! It can’t be that hard.

fmstrat,

But the 9.6 version, or 11 version, could be the most popular.

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