This week's feature guest is DHS undersecretary for policy and head of the CSRB Rob Silvers.
Next week we'll talk about Australia doxxing and sanctioning the Medibank hacker with assistant foreign minister Tim Watts, who spearheaded this action.
@riskybusiness did I misunderstand the Medibank scenario where the punishment and jurisdiction ends at the AU border.
He can’t visit and no Australians can send him money? I feel like I’ve misunderstood something here because that doesn’t feel like an outcome that will change anyone’s risk calculus.
@riskybusiness listened to the podcast today, I think there’s still a fairly large gap between maybe what some of the expectations were and where we landed.
For example given the access they clearly had and the time they presumably had it for, I wonder if it was possible to craft a compelling set of false pretences that would get him into a jurisdiction where he could have been arrested? Or seized the crypto? I feel like there’s a whole range of scenarios that were on the table still.
Maybe there is a larger non public version of the operation but I just don’t know how much this changes the risk calculus for the next one realistically.
@riskybusiness just by way of example and coincidental timing today’s news is exactly what I had in mind. Target is inside Russia and is then lured to a 3rd country where they are arrested and extradited and put into a US prison.
I think that is the standard against which it should be judged.
Ideally you make it a commonly known fact that if you cross a certain line that at a minimum you will need to also develop a strong understanding of declared and undeclared law enforcement cooperation agreements and you are giving up ever traveling to or even passing through large parts of the world and if you miscalculate that at any point you’re going to be doing a few years in prison.
@mdh your third paragraph is exactly what they’ve done here. He cannot travel outside of Russia, ever. The people at his level already know not to travel in the medium term future, but this closes it off for good. Even if he can evade the travel ban he will be arrested if he leaves.
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