webology,
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🤷 I would take your Tailwind CSS takedown piece more seriously if your blog weren't shilling something like your "perfect" web framework, CSS book, or paid course. We should come up with bingo cards for this stuff.

✨ Use the CSS framework, un-framework, or don't use a framework if that sparks joy.

🦄 There are no unicorn CSS solutions out there that solve everyone's problems. Vanilla CSS is good. Tailwind CSS is good. Your homegrown, hybrid, atomic solution is good, too.

d,
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@webology this. There are trends in the industry that are actively doing harm (hurting accessibility, wasting carbon for no reason). Tailwind isn’t for me, but neither are religious wars. Let people get work done.

webology,
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@d They throw accessibility out the door unless you are buying one of their catchy t-shirts.

indepndnt,
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@webology I just hope "I don't really know what I'm doing but I managed to make my site look pretty decent (for now)" is good too.

webology,
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@indepndnt As it should be. ✅

greg,
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@webology

> ✨ Use the CSS framework, un-framework, or don't use a framework if that sparks joy.

This! I tire of all the Tailwind/CSS wars.

webology,
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@greg It reminds me of the decade+ or so of reminding people that Django is just Python...

The design industrial complex is too big and too mature to still be pulling this shit.

greg,
@greg@gregnewman.io avatar

@webology Yes it does. Just use what works for your project/client and team. No need to write a blog post ranting about what you didn't use.

(I think I read the same post(s) you are referencing 🤢)

webology,
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@greg Their previous argument linked up the uncompressed CSS files while claiming that TailwindCSS is >30M and ya. Dishonest AF.

My issue with these is we could have good discussions about legit Tailwind CSS issues, but instead, we get dishonest hot takes to shill a CMS, book, etc.

greg,
@greg@gregnewman.io avatar

@webology Seriously? I did not notice that if it's the same article. Slack or DM me that one please. Or maybe it'll just piss me off.

grantmc,
@grantmc@techhub.social avatar

@webology I could not agree with this more. Why does everything have to devolve into teams? Just use whichever tool you want, people.

webology,
@webology@mastodon.social avatar

@grantmc I'm 90% sure this is for the clicks and shilling of the previously mentioned things. Otherwise, I wonder why someone would call something dangerous and wrong, and then when I look at what they consider good, they look the same to me but with different naming conventions. It's unhealthy IMO.

webology,
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🤷 After three decades, I wish the design industry* would grow the f up.

  • -> This is probably not you, friends.
onelson,
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@webology I wish more sites would just look like plain black and white default HTML style.

webology,
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@onelson I have had this website open in a tab for what seems like a few years. https://every-layout.dev

Not only do I keep procrastinating buying it, but I mostly keep it open because it nails being a black and white website.

onelson,
@onelson@mastodon.social avatar

@webology looks over-designed to me. More basic please. 🤣

webology,
@webology@mastodon.social avatar

@onelson Well it is every layout. Just pick one and start from scratch.

bobschi,
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@webology @onelson Just bought it, and getting comfortable using it. It's worth it, in my mind. Stuff like every-layout.dev, cubecss.fyi, utopia.fyi, and HTMX has brought back the joy in web development for me.

webology,
@webology@mastodon.social avatar

@bobschi @onelson, that's wonderful to hear. I'm a big fan of Andy Bell's work. It goes back over a decade and I should probably just buy the darn thing already. 🤣

bobschi,
@bobschi@mastodon.social avatar

@onelson @webology Have you taken a look at https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/ ? :)

webology,
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Today it's t-shirts and a book. 😂

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