zyd,
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Having boosts hidden (because Phanpy makes them easy to ignore with its carousel) and following the autistic tags+groups makes April Fools on social media much more tolerable. Pleasant surprise. Still had some annoyance though today, like Discord's loot box joke that I thought was real and irritated me. Didn't even feel like a joke considering Discord will soon be rolling out even more ads (Don't fall into the mistaken idea that Discord doesn't have ads, it does. What do you think game promos and collabs are?). I could see them easily adding loot boxes and other nonsense in the future. My paranoia made me wonder if this "joke" of theirs was a test to warm the waters, so to speak.

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dekkzz76,
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@zyd

not allowing quoted replies was a design choice based on abuse on twitter.

zyd,
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@dekkzz76 I don't understand. How are quote replies abused?

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@zyd
I think it's considered bad form to toot a quote (or link) of a toot rather than boosting the other toot. Because the intent mostly appears to be to boost the toot without boosting the toot.
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@screwtape @zyd

more boosting to toot rather than the toot-er

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@zyd @lispi314
quotes from one smaller social group put into other conversations of another larger violently opposed group who would dogpile the first group destroying any chance the first social group have of using twitter

think trans people or gays against right wing evangelical groups on twitter

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@dekkzz76 @zyd Which was based on a complete misunderstanding of how harassment works.

Legitimate users found it annoying while those intent on using it for harassment simply did it the /slightly/ harder way or made tools to automate it.

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@lispi314 @zyd

AFAIK from toots by some of the people who formed the Activity Pub SIG @ the W3C it was personal experience.

At the time misuse of quotes was the most common harrasement vector

lispi314,
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@dekkzz76 @zyd Mostly out of convenience, there's little reason for its absense to have any real impact on that. As has been demonstrated by fedi bad actors promptly coming up with alternatives.

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@lispi314 @zyd

i dont miss it, i'm sure if its brought into mastodon then some servers will unpatch it

zyd,
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@dekkzz76 @lispi314 I believe both Akkoma and Misskey (et al) support it. With Akkoma I've read that quoted posts simply get attached as a reply to the post, so its more of a formalization of what already occurs in Mastodon servers.

Would be interesting to try out Akkoma but every server I see is too closely aligned with chan (and derivative) culture. Extremely irony poisoned and mean spirited. Don't think that has to do with quote replies but it is interesting.

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