I love it when you sit in the rain for 3 minutes, obediently waiting for a walk signal, only to have some jerk who just showed up plow through the crosswalk right when the light changes like it's his god given right.
The fight to #BanRTOR may literally be the hill I die on. When drivers are sometimes allowed to turn right on red, then they will always assume they can turn right on red, regardless of any other cues in their environment.
@ajjison yes. my god, flashing yellow lefts are so dangerous.
and also pointless. if there is a pedestrian in a crosswalk, then by law, the motorist cannot go. so why let them have a traffic signal that tells them otherwise?
Right Turn On Red (RTOR) doesn't save any fuel for EV's and more and more vehicles are EV's. RTOR does cost lives. Time for a cost/benefit reappraisal.
If we truly want people to follow instructions, then those instructions must always be consistent. Red must always mean stop. It cannot be conditional.
@DrTCombs
I'm glad I don't have to drive much anymore because there's so much pressure from other drivers to drive in ways that are unsafe for cyclists and pedestrians. If RTOR were eliminated it would reduce so much stress for me.
Like, I really don't want to pull up and block the crosswalk while waiting to turn! What's the point of a crosswalk if you don't keep it clear? But it is expected that you WILL turn right on red if you possibly can.
@artemis I get it, but take your reluctance to annoy other drivers and multiply it across entire transportation systems and you get what we have today -- transport professions, policies, and infrastructures that prioritize convenience and comfort for drivers over the safety of everyone else.
when I drive, I literally do not care if my refusal to endanger pedestrians & cyclists with my car pisses other drivers off. What are they going to do to me? I'm in a steel roll cage surrounded by airbags!
@DrTCombs
Like I said, I'm much happier not to deal with it at all: drivers in my city are very aggressive in general and pissing them off on the road can definitely get you caught in road rage situations surprisingly easily. I know people who have been shot at for pissing off the driver behind them. 😬
@DrTCombs
Honestly I feel like I'm not communicating properly here, and I don't have the brainpower to fix it.
I do my best to drive safely and consciously of others, but the more conscious I have become, the more driving has become an awful experience because driving safely literally angers people.
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