Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

Just got back a message from the mods who told me to grow up and called me a 'hero'. They also muted me for 28 days so I can't message them any more. My reply to their ban was this "Banned for deleting my own comment in a 10 year old thread? Funny."

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

And just so anyone can see, this is the only message I sent them regarding the ban.

RyanHakurei,
RyanHakurei avatar

You can consider your Reddit account permabanned too. Powermods will typically report any "backtalk" to the Reddit admins which basically will get you permabanned no matter your infraction history.l

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

That's fine with me I was deleting it on the 30th anyhow. Plus this should highlight the pathetic atmosphere over there for anyone who is on the fence about leaving.

Awhiskeydrunker,
Awhiskeydrunker avatar

I think I just made the decision to start editing and then deleting. This is gross.

NoIWontPickaName,

make sure not to delete your account yet, they are restoring deleted and edited comments and posts

ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

Source?

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

I've seen some posts about it but nothing definitive yet. My edits are still standing a few hours later.

Grosby,
Grosby avatar
ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

I scanned through that and saw no evidence. Did I miss it?

There was discussion about how Power Delete Suite misses some things.

Awhiskeydrunker,
Awhiskeydrunker avatar

Yep will hold off on deleting the account until I’m sure they are finished reverting our content updates/edits. Just finished editing over 11 years of comments/posts with redact.dev

lowleveldata,

These shitty mods is what I hated about reddit even before the API change. Glad that we have Lemmy to move on to.

SkinOfAnOrange,

I have deleted all my comment's spez had made the platform impossible for me to return to with his coward behaviour. "Answered" 14 questions, then stopped answering and ran off to the press, he's a coward.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Mmm, tasty boots!

RyanHakurei,
RyanHakurei avatar

Who knew that the powermods Spez spefifically appointed to the main subreddits would be power throating his boot so much they're shitting out his bootlaces?

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

No one could have foreseen this!

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

Perfect description.

wizzor,

A GDPR removal request would be quite useful for this.

Evono,
@Evono@lemmy.world avatar

GDPR is more or less about Personal data comments ( without personal Data ) dont fall under this.

You can still edit and delete comments even if your banned in that Sub , use a tool like https://redact.dev/ to speed it up ( its free )

empireOfLove,

Fun fact: Being banned from a community, or reddit as a whole, does not remove content that wasnt specifically removed by mods... it also doesn't restrict you from editing and removing existing comments.

brickfrog,

That's silly, any Reddit moderators that actually care about deleted/edited comments can easily configure automoderator to remove the comment. There's no need to go on a frenzy to ban every single person editing/removing old comments.

And trust me there are a lot of people editing/deleting comments right now.

Evono,
@Evono@lemmy.world avatar

And trust me there are a lot of people editing/deleting comments right now.

I did even edit and remove old comments via Redact with keywords and more before that fiasco they all just got now super sensitive because their power tripping janitor position is in danger.

derf82,

I was abruptly permanently banned from a sub I have posted in for years for “ban evasion.” I wasn’t banned in any account I use in that sub. I had been inadvertently banned over 6 months ago when a mod accidentally clicked my name but was unbanned hours later when I noticed and told them.

Supposedly Reddit tagged my to the mods of the sub for ban evasion. When told the mods, they sent a ticket to admins who abruptly permanently banned me from Reddit. I appealed, showing them the messages from the mods where they apologized for banning me, and it went no where.

I really think the admins are clamping down wherever they see dissent. I imagine it has more to do with participating in spez’s AMA than anything. Anything to get rid of users that are against their changes.

ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

Technically it's the "edit" they ban for, not the "delete".

The Reddit history deletion tools like to edit every comment before deleting them.

This was (is?) a privacy "best practice" based on the understanding that Reddit, Inc. can recover the text of deleted comments, but not the edit history. Just what the comment said at the time of deletion.

Quoting reddit Admin u/alienth:

We will still have access to a deleted comment. So, yes, if you'd like to ensure that something is completely removed, editing would accomplish that.

Edit: to clarify, the delete button does delete the content from public view on the site. The differentiator with the edit button is that we simply don't store old edits. People can choose to take advantage of this by editing away the text.

In the case of deleting your comments to protest Reddit's decision, I'm not sure editing is really helpful. It's technically possible but very unlikely IMO that they would do something like a mass undelete just to keep your content on their site.

lucien,

Yea, nothing prevents them from fetching the pre-edited content from their daily or weekly database backups. Media such as images and video might be harder to restore, but "soft" deletes on that type of storage are common, and editing a comment to remove an embed won't delete the embed source.

ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

Yes, it's obviously technically possible to recover from a backup whether or not you edit. If anything, alienth was probably sharing that they can see deleted comments with no extra work required at all.

My point was that "editing before deleting" is done by these shredding tools because of the comment I quoted. It does nothing to prevent third parties from keeping their own copy, and is at worst an inconvenience to Reddit, Inc.

Therefore I'm not sure there's any real value to it for this kind of use.

berkeleyblue,
@berkeleyblue@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure that’s not an option once they receive a GDPR Data removal request.

ErraticDragon,
ErraticDragon avatar

Yeah it would probably be illegal to use the data for anything in the event of a GDPR removal.

They do technically still have it in their backups, most likely. It should be covered in Reddit's ToS.

According to France’s GDPR supervisory authority, CNIL, organisations don’t have to delete backups when complying with the right to erasure.

Nonetheless, they must clearly explain to the data subject that backups will be kept for a specified length of time (outlined in your retention policy).

If you decide to go down this route, you should bear in mind that other supervisory authorities might be stricter and that you must be able to demonstrate that it’s impractical to delete backup data.

https://www.itgovernance.eu/blog/en/the-gdpr-how-the-right-to-be-forgotten-affects-backups-2

Otome-chan,
Otome-chan avatar

/r/news has always been terrible so this isn't a surprise lol

Evono,
@Evono@lemmy.world avatar

Many of the main subs of reddit are super cranky with the mods. did post once a Original video on R/funny and it got removed was Threatened with a ban because i needed to proof its mine.

i asked then how and they said "usually you have Multiple recordings from different angles to proof" ... ye everyone got 5 camera people recording at all times lol

Meanwhile on the mainpage of R/funny was Simpsons , futurama , and more series clips wonder how they proofed with multiple angles that they own Simpsons lol

SillyJester,

I hope the escalation mobilizes more people to clear their post history and delete their accounts.

detwaft,

I decided I was done there and did mine before the 12th

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

Me too.

Gravelsack,

Reddit working overtime to keep me from ever returning

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

Agreed.

spider, (edited )

Admins and mods will likely be more vigilant about deleted posts and comments at least until things settle, so it might be better to abandon now, then delete later.

(Edited back to original comment.)

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

That is what I was thinking earlier today when I edited 13 years worth of comments and deleted all of my posts. I figure they will make it impossible unless you are protected by GDPR or something similar.

pizza_rolls,
pizza_rolls avatar

I recommend waiting to delete anyway, because you won't be able to delete any comments/posts on subs that are private. Hopefully deletion scripts will still work after the API change 😬

spider,

because you won’t be able to delete any comments/posts on subs that are private.

I'm assuming this might also apply to read-only subs (?)

Jon-H558,

Hopefully deletion scripts will still work after the API change 😬

I wouldn't hold.my breath on that

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

With the threat of removing mods for participating in the blackout, I wonder if some of them are deliberately just being extra ban-happy as an alternative.

Sub status don't mean squat if the users don't want to post.

tumble_weeds,

Schrodinger's mod is simultaneously lame and based until you open the box

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty much! I like to give the benefit of the doubt when the potential to exists - makes the world feel a lot less shitty.

Rashnet,
Rashnet avatar

I thought I replied already to this so this might be a double.. I think they are just a bootlicker who needs to go outside more often. Based on the reply I got from them I don't think they give a shit about their users just their power.

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