Wes_Dev,

To be fair, Infinity worked for me for months after the API bullshit went into effect; NSFW and everything. The dev seemed pretty cool in the one or two times I messaged them. It must suck they have to charge now.

Still, screw Reddit. Dropped it like a bad habit… Because it honestly was for me.

Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

… and people will do it.

ebenixo,

Fuck reddit but also fuck pro-defederation safe space bigots.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

fuck pro-defederation safe space bigots

How is this even remotely related to the OP, or this comm at large?

If by “pro-defederation safe space bigots” you mean instances like lemmy.blahaj.zone and beehaw.org, that tend to defed a lot of instances to keep their own as “safe spaces”, can you please explain what would make them “bigots”? And if you meant something else, could you clarify it?

ebenixo,

pro defederation, safe space bigots.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

pro defederation, safe space bigots.

Please, answer the questions.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

Actually… you don’t need to answer the questions.

After checking your profile, it shows multiple instances of problematic behaviour: witch hunting here and here, misusing the word “bigot” for ad hitlerem, anti-vaxx content, even concern trolling against trans people. And your soapbox above shows that you’re likely going to behave like this in SNOOcalypse too.

As such, I’m creating an exception to the way that I usually moderate this community, and banning you before you cause problems here. You aren’t fooling anyone here.

net00,

Must be fucking tragic still developing for reddit ecosystem. All of your subscriptions go straight to Reddit, who graciously gives you access to user generated content curated by unpaid mods.

I checked out Narwhal 2, and the app is a goddam jewel. I’d have paid $30 or $50 for it (like I did with Bean for Lemmy). It almost convinced me to go and make a reddit account again, but then I saw reddit recently stopped letting you opt out of ad personalization anymore, and it was easy to run back to lemmy. Reddit does not want 3rd party apps. Eventually they’ll look for ways to fully block access.

AtariDump,

Released Narwhal 2 right in time for most people to never use it.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

I wonder if those devs, still playing along with Reddit Inc. outrageous prices, aren’t coding access to other platforms behind the scenes. It would be a decent approach to retain their userbase, while gently encouraging it to migrate.

Tlaloc_Temporal,

That’s what BOOST did. Basically a 1:1 transition from reddit to lemmy after the API died.

ThePrivacyPolicy,

Reddit has a lot more tracking and fingerprinting going on in their own app too that they obviously want you there for. Once you log into multiple accounts, it fingerprints you as the same user on all accounts. I had a few accounts; a work related one and a couple personal ones. Ended up with a temporary ban on one from a dick head mod, and ALL of them got banned together for 7 days because of that with a message (forget the exact wording so I’m paraphrasing) basically saying “don’t try to make another account to get around the ban because we’ll still know its you”. They’re mining the shit out of user data now, and also really starting to connect the dots on multiple account holders which I’m guessing will be to “deal with” people who detract from their IPO goals. Glad I left.

Wage_slave,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

This is like seeing a photo of a friend that got murdered three months after they got killed just highlighting the corpse that is left.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

It’s like reading the Kobe Bryant autopsy report. Yeah it’s awful, but it happened a long time ago and he was instantly dead before the really awful stuff happened anyway.

JokeDeity,

Boy, now I really want to go back! 🤣

DeanFogg,

Let’s pack tonight we can be there by morning 😹😹

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Long before the APIcalypse, I was thinking of quitting Reddit. Now that everything went downhill, that decision became super easy.

I wasn’t really getting that much benefit out of Reddit, so it wasn’t a big deal. Spending time there was more like bad habit to me. The mere thought of paying for a bad habit sounds so absurd that quitting would have been absolutely mandatory at that point.

Fortunately though, Reddit already made the process so much easier simply buy kicking out my favorite client app.

AppearanceBoring9229,

Same here, it had been several months where I felt that the general quality had been declining. As soon as the AMA was done and nothing was answered I deleted the app (RiF).

Sadly I still miss some niche communities, but I’ve been finding substitutes

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

I missed the unexpected factorial sub, so I made a spiritual successor for it.

!unexpectedfactorial

unexpectedfactorial

If you miss a particular sub, see if a replacement already exists somewhere in the lemmyverse. If it does, participate in it. If not, make one.

AppearanceBoring9229,

I’ve been trying to be a little more active, since I mainly only lurked it’s a bit extrange for me.

Eventually I may try to start a community

Wes_Dev,

I know, right? It was like a steady stream of assholes, habitual doom scrolling, and occasionally a few good topics or people chatting.

I made a pact to stop using Reddit as soon as Infinity stopped working for me. It worked for months, but when it stopped, I held myself to it. Not only did I deactivate my account, I used a service to overwrite all of my content, and also then delete it beforehand. My mental health has been recovering steadily ever since.

Even if I did get something positive out of it, I refuse to be part of an ecosystem run that treats it’s users and volunteers with such open hostility. The whole saga with Spez lying and bullshitting to make other people look bad, and the pro-corporate bots that popped up from time to time turned me off it entirely. I miss it sometimes, but what’s the point of having a sense of ethics or personal conviction if you shrug your shoulders and do what you want regardless of whether you know you should?

It’s like someone claiming to be a vegetarian, but they eat meat whenever they feel like it because it tastes good.

Hamartiogonic,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

When I joined Reddit I noticed that it’s too easy to end up doomscrolling and arguing with idiots. That’s why I stayed away from r/all and any sub that’s all about news and/politics. The only exception was r/europe, because I think it’s good to know something about the region that actually influences my life.

In order to avoid wasting time on stupid idiont nonsense, I focused on science and technology subs along with some very specific niche subs. That way Reddit was actually able to provide some benefit from time to time.

I made a Lemmy account before the Reddit Blackout, and I’ve been here ever since. After the blackout ended, I visited Reddit every week at first, but now it’s more like once a month at most. In order to make the transition faster, I unsubscribed from everything except all the protest, blackout, API etc. related subs. So if I go to Reddit now, I’ll just see people complaining about Reddit. If I go to r/all it’s about as useless as it was years ago, so there’s no reason to spend time in there.

HowMany,

For some reason, Spaz thinks he’s Musk. It’s funny that Spaz is destroying reddit the same way Mush destroyed twitter, well… not funny “ha ha”, but funny ‘odd’.

How stupid must they be?

WashedOver,
@WashedOver@lemmy.ca avatar

Well in the reddit case there’s a payoff and then one gets to walk away from the sinking ship. They just need to get things pumped up for the IPO and then who cares what happens from there. It’s time to cash out and it becomes someone else’s problem to deal with.

This IPO is the only thing that going to give them anything remotely near Musk money and it’s not going to anywhere near at much where one can crash and burn another social media site for the hell of it…

JokeDeity,

Which I don’t get, all they have done for months(years really) is make the site less attractive to users, and therefore less attractive to investors. They did all the shitty stuff you do to maintain piece of shit shareholders BEFORE THEY HAD THE SHAREHOLDERS!

nossaquesapao,

It’s like those recent news about netflix rising prices and preventing password share. They don’t care about users’ experience, or if 10% of the userbase will leave, as long as the revenue increases.

devils_advocate,

They probably have to show revenue

sizzler,

This is their way of destroying global communication. We the people were organising using their sites. That obviously couldn’t happen so they threw the toys out of the pram and its worked. There is less of a global forum with reddit and twitter fkd.

HowMany,

umm… this “we the people” shit needs to come to a halt. Your “we” doesn’t include “me”, so the “we” part is overreach.

“You A Person” I can buy - but “we” ain’t “we” pal.

sizzler,

If it’s a group organisation without any restriction to entry then it is the common person’s voice. Do you not think that together we can work towards a better tomorrow?

HowMany,

It’s the common person’s voice with access to that medium.

KingJalopy,

Damn. I never thought about it like that. You’re right, but at the same time I see Lemmy way more focused on important matters we should pay attention to. With actual discussion within, not just bullshit bots slinging nonsense to steer the conversations. Granted lemmy def leans a certain way depending on where you are but it’s mostly what the majority is already thinking. They may have fucked themselves in that aspect. Driving us to be more centralized with less noise to interfere. Idk, but good point.

Uranium3006,
Uranium3006 avatar

That's gonna backfire because now we have alternatives that aren't owned by companies that can be coerced by any two bit dictatorship with profits. They're driving people right to.the fediverse with is way worse for them

mctoasterson,

It’s a paradigm that defeats itself. Reddit is basically reselling access to shit that users freely submit. They start removing access from users who don’t want to pay or use the official (bad experience) app, and they will necessarily have fewer submissions and less content.

If its a hassle to go there and use it, and the payment structure disincentivizes their young demographic from using it, it is no longer the “cool kid” corner of the internet, which further removes the reason why other people would want to pay for it.

Imagine I’m a hypothetical Reddit user under the new model - what would be my incentive to pay them for the privilege of posting links, quality text posts, my girlfriends tits, or anything else for that matter?

Euphorazine,

My favorite bit of irony is how spez was throwing shade at third party apps for having the audacity to “profit” off reddits’s work for free, when that is reddits’s entire business model.

shrugal, (edited )

I’m happy to buy an app, but I will not pay a $3 subscription for just an app and access to a repository of user generated content. I know the Infinity devs don’t really have a choice, but this pricing model is ridiculous!

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t even want to buy an app for social media. Since Reddit sells your data I just can’t be interested in purchasing access to my info being sold.

mysoulishome,
@mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

If I had been given the option to pay $3 or $5 a month in June to continue using Apollo to access Reddit with no restrictions (NSFW) I would have considered it. I trust Christian’s assessment that it wasn’t financially viable, though. The dev of this app admits at $3 they basically make nothing. If the app cannot be funded (aka dev make a living) Reddit is overcharging for what they provide and can go fuck themselves.

This basically still supports what Christian said in June…and still shows why Reddit was so stupid and toxic that they wouldn’t try to tweak the api dollar amounts to make it sustainable.

Fuck spez still. I admire what these devs are trying to do but Reddit does not want them to succeed, and Reddit does not want people using their apps…so it’s a losing battle

regbin_,

Pay for API access but still no NSFW.

Queens113,

If you’re on Android, download boost for reddit (best app for reddit if you ask me). Create a random sub and become a mod, sign into boost and profit… Full access to an app thats not reddits BS app with NSFW…

PoopMonster,

Haven’t been able to log in for days now 🙁

Queens113,

Did you do the ReVanced “mod”? I did and it was working fine for a while … Then I got a new phone and the “mod” didn’t work. So I did a clean install of boost and created a subreddit who I’m the Mod of and it let me log in immediately

tilgare,

Why did everybody have to close down if costs are fully covered with a $2.99 subscription? I probably would have paid for reddit is fun at that price for myself and my wife. Assuming it stays ad free.

Unbeelievable,

Three dollars a month is a lot in some places.

omgitsaheadcrab,

No NSFW content though

atrielienz, (edited )

Everyone couldn’t have. The more users you have using a app the higher the API hits, the higher the number of API hits the more you’d have the charge. So the more popular apps with the most users couldn’t survive odd on just $2.99 a month and certainly not while continuing to update and upkeep that app (or those apps) because they wouldn’t be making any money let alone enough to justify the work they’d be doing.

Additionally this isn’t an ad free version of Reddit you’ll be getting with this sub. It’s still Reddit with ads.

bl4kers,
@bl4kers@lemmy.ml avatar

Plus you need the $$$ before the API bill and there’ll always be some amount of mismatch between the expected usage and actual usage of users

leo,

For those who don’t know: Eternity (for Lemmy) is a fork of Infinity (for Reddit).

boings,

Dangit that’s literally what I’m working on haha!

beerclue,

That’s what I use, and it’s great! I have been using Infinity with reddit for many years before switching.

Aggravationstation,

Yup, I use it as well. Fantastic app which costs nothing and is available on F-droid.

SatyrSack,

Note that it is not in the main F-Droid repo yet. Coming soon, but you currently have to add the IzzyOnDroid repo. Instructions at the top of this page apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

whats the diffefemce between izzy and f repos

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

izzyondroid is maintained by Izzy, a single dev. whereas fdroid’s repo is official repo for f-droid.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

why wpuld one perso make their own repo

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

because f-droid’s criteria is restrictive to some otherwise good apps. and they take some time to add apps to official repo.
think of izzyondroid like a beta-testing repo.

SuperSpruce,

Is this an Antimatter Dimensions reference?

dustball987,

Thanks for this.

nossaquesapao,

For some reason, I love forks who are named with a word that has a very similar concept to the original one.

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Infinity, it’s Eternity but more science-y.

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