Bitswap,

Phys.org again printing anything that’s sent their way…I get tired of the endless drivel from phys.org

Goodman,

seems like a good spot for the dark matter rap www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/…/darkmatterrap.mp3

electric_nan,

Dark mind over dark matter, amirite?

Krudler, (edited )

I went and read the research.

I’m not an expert and as such can’t really analyze it fully. But what I took away is that it aimed to test a part of new theory by with a very narrow measurement, using early-universe density oscillations. They left dark matter out of the equation with the new model, and it was a smashing success if you’re willing to overlook that it requires the universe to be a completely different age than it is… In short, this is shenanigans.

edit: I’m fine being wrong if I am, I’d love to know more from informed readers. That’s just what I took away iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/…/ad1bc6#apjad…

edit2: It also presumes the “tired light theory” is true. Tired light is the flat earth of astrophysics/cosmology. Yeah, there are contrarian knuckleheads in every discipline.

Endward23,

Tired light is the flat earth of astrophysics/cosmology.

Does it really say it? Can you please quote the piece?

Harbinger01173430,

No shit?

Klear,

Shit is not considered dark matter, no.

Alexstarfire,

Never taken Pepto, have you?

antihumanitarian,

Don’t get too excited, this is a pretty fringe theory that doesn’t really have experimental evidence. They were able to make some observations fit with their theory without dark matter yes, but not all of them. The tired light part in particular has a lot of contradictions with observation that they don’t explain.

So interesting, but far from definitive.

yesoutwater,

Couldn’t the same be said for the proof of dark matter?

They were able to make some observations fit with their theory with dark matter yes, but not all of them

0ops,

Generally for a new theory to be accepted, it needs to explain everything that the old theory did plus something more

bitcrafter,

Couldn’t the same be said for the proof of dark matter?

No, dark matter is actually a great explanation for lots and lots of observations; the only problem with it is that we don’t know anything about it other than that it is such a good explanation for these observations.

AFaithfulNihilist,
@AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world avatar

If light got tired, wouldn’t everything get blurry the further away it were?

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

I’m nearsighted, so that happens anyways

AFaithfulNihilist,
@AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world avatar

Me too but I always knew that it was my eyes not the maximum draw distance of the universe that was to blame.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m a workshop kind of guy that enjoys space documentaries. For my part, I see “dark matter” as a known hole in our current understanding of cosmology, and I bet when we figure out how it does actually work it’ll lead to some really cool TV shows.

Daft_ish, (edited )

These type of comments always throw me through a loop.

Scientist:

Makes hypothesis, does analysis, writes paper, and presents work for other academics to review.

Lemmy poster:

Logs into lemmy. Posts “i think not mr scientist”. Recieves upvotes.

While I would certainly like to say I understood any of this. This post has not met any rigorous standard of debunking the researchers findings.

It’s fine if you have knowledge on this particular subject but it kinda seems like you’re just throwing shade.

acetanilide,

I get what you’re saying, but peer review isn’t exactly all that rigorous either

Daft_ish, (edited )

They meet the bare minimum of at least being a peer in their field of research.

Endward23,

While I would certainly like to say I understood any of this. This post has not met any rigorous standard of debunking the researchers findings.

Thats not what the posting claimed to be. You missunderstand. Either intentionally or just as a fact.

KISSmyOS,

Dicks out for dark matter!

HawlSera,

It’s almost like we shouldn’t have been all in on the thing that literally has less evidence behind it than fucking psychic powers.

zaphod,

It’s not that dark matter was the only theory, there are also different theories based on modified newtonian dynamics (MOND), these aren’t any better than dark matter though, maybe even worse theories.

Gabu, (edited )

They say, while being fully behind a hypothesis with no supporting evidence and while not understanding the research.

Harbinger01173430,

Wasn’t the FBI or CIA responsible for making a psychic project? Project Stargate or something?

swab148,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

The Men Who Stare At Goats

Feathercrown,

Is anyone really surprised? Really neat study though!

Gabu,

A neat study… which you know literally nothing about? How can you possibly know it’s neat?

Feathercrown,

I’m just built different

TimewornTraveler,

This stuff is way, way over my head. And probably most of humanity right now. In this moment I can feel some envy and admiration towards whoever is around to understand the great breakthroughs we may one day have on this matter.

MisterD, (edited )

Coles notes: scientists made calculations on the universe and it didn’t make sense because the math says there should be more mass and energy than what they know exists. So they called the missing mass dark matter and the missing energy, dark energy.

Now some guy in Ottawa figured out better math that doesn’t need the “dark” stuff to make the math make sense.

ApatheticCactus,

My understanding of dark energy is a little different. As I understand it, we figured gravity pulls things together, right? So everything should be kinda slowly falling back together from the big bang. It was theorized to end in a ‘big crunch’ where the universe collapses back and then explodes again in a cycle.

Only when they tried to measure how fast distant objects were moving relative to us, they found that things were still moving away from each other. More than that, the farther away things were, the faster they were moving. Meaning distant objects were accelerating.

Acceleration requires energy, but we don’t know the mechanism behind this, or where the energy comes from. Hence, dark energy.

elbarto777,

So, dark energy is responsible of the expansion of the universe?

slumberlust,

Maybe, we don’t know.

Ddub,

kinda, dark energy is the unknown explanation for the expansion of the universe. Once we understand it enough to know what it is responsible for it’ll no longer be dark.

Harbinger01173430,

You humans and your primitive knowledge. The rest of the universe knows that this dark energy you haven’t found out yet is called Mana and allows miracles to be made. /S

bitcrafter,

Just to be clear, there are lots and lots of different observations that are ; it’s not just a single term in “the math”. Furthermore, the hypothesis presented in this article is not “better math” because it does not do as good a job as dark matter in explaining all of these observations.

KISSmyOS,

Only white matter is allowed in this universe.

myrrh,

All Matter Lives.

Fades,

White matter matters!

Thin white line!!!

olutukko,

Black matter lives

NigelFrobisher,

Just going to assume this popular science article is about a theory with no support as usual.

quafeinum,

Always has been.

Welt,

*hypothesis. A theory (in the scientific sense) has to be tested and therefore has at least some support!

NigelFrobisher,

Fair.

TimewornTraveler, (edited )

um i browsed it for nearly two minutes and at the very top of the page there was clearly a chart. i didn’t understand it but obviously we can conclude that it is based on scientific science

peak_dunning_krueger,

I have also seen the picture and can confirm, that it is, in fact, a picture.

nicknonya,
@nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

sory i eated it all

Molten_Moron,

where were u wen dark matter die

WalrusByte,
@WalrusByte@lemmy.world avatar

i was sat at home eating milky way when saturn ring

“dark matter is kill”

“no”

Classy,

when saturn ring

🥇

WalrusByte,
@WalrusByte@lemmy.world avatar

Glad someone appreciated that, lol

olutukko,

I guess it’s my turn to point out typo like a good grammar police. Eat is ate in past tense. Also you only have one r in sorry.

Anyway, now I shall head to another corner of internet to make my own typos so people can point them out

nicknonya,
@nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

these typos were intentional
good luck on your typo making endeavors tho!

Raykin,

It’s time for people to start taking this matter lightly.

wirehead,

Well played.

some_guy,

The Tremendous Space Kablooie fails again.

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