alcoholicorn,

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1Critical support doesn’t imply Russia is good

2It didn’t fall out of a coconut tree; all socialist projects exist in their historical context

3Fucking Kruschev

ArmokGoB,

The LW admins are violating their own ToS by allowing LML posts to get federated to LW.

Leate_Wonceslace,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m not sure what you mean?

ArmokGoB,

A lot of the content on Lemmy.ml that is endorsed by their admins breaks rules 1, 2, 4, and 5.1 of the Lemmy.world terms of service. By staying federated with them, the admins are facilitating this content’s transfer to Lemmy.world’s servers, which is against their own terms of service.

pjwestin,

God, I’m just so genuinely happy to see someone use the word, “Tankie,” properly. A shocking number of people on .world seem to think anyone left of Joe Biden is a Tankie.

Immersive_Matthew,

I just wish more people would identify that too much centralization is the root problem versus pointing the finger at the opposing yet equally centralized political systems. There needs to be a balance between centralization and decentralization yet few understand this. So frustrating.

drathvedro, (edited )

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Where do I claim my prize?

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

My instance owner was bemoaning being blocked by lemmy.ml and literally all the comments are like “so? Lemmy.ml sucks dude. Don’t worry about it.” lol

Socsa,

It’s always really sad to see otherwise good leftist ideals held back by ML campist brain rot tbh.

Gabu,

“USA bad” should be the free space, because anyone with as little as half a rotten brain can identify that it’s true - The US is a shithole. That does preclude conservatives, of course.

bastion,

We definitely have our issues.

Mostly, they are the ones other places can ignore because they aren’t the cultural battleground for the world at large. Not that I’m complaining, since we’re not generally the physical battleground for the world at large.

Mostly, there’s not a good culture of actually facing issues and processing them, anywhere in the world, outside of some spiritual practices. If you’re someone who does do that, though, the US is the place to be.

Gabu,

the cultural battleground for the world at large.

You far overrate the importance of your country.

bastion, (edited )

Not really. I’m not saying melting pots don’t exist elsewhere, nor am I saying that somehow the US matters more because of the ideologies it (barely) holds. I’m just saying that the US is one of the largest melting pots, globally. But the ideas it holds are more important than the nation by far. Those ideas will continue to exist (and find another center) whether or not the US manages to be centered in them - for example, if the US is torn apart in the process of those cultural interactions.

But whether or not you like it - regardless of whether you think it’s arrogant, that’s the way it is, currently. And if that cultural battleground shifts to some other nation, or some other individual nation becomes comparable (there are plenty of ways that could happen), you’ll probably also assert that they overrate their importance. And likely, some of them will, just as plenty of folks in the US do.

Edit: Also note, when I said

Mostly, there’s not a good culture of actually facing issues and processing them, anywhere in the world, outside of some spiritual practices. If you’re someone who does do that, though, the US is the place to be

…that it’s both because this is a cultural battleground, and because the issues manifest here. It’s not exactly a “positive” statement.

DAMunzy,

The nickname tankies is pretty funny because tanks are becoming obsolete.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Is the name meant to be related to war machines or the things you keep fish in? 🤔

owsei,

the war machines

it was something about who defended the USSR rolling tanks into a country to get it into the USSR or smth

TheControlled,

Does enemys have to be misspelled to get bingo?

bastion,

Don’t worry, it will be.

corsicanguppy,

“enemys”

TokenBoomer, (edited )

Cowbee made an excellent comment in this thread that explains the confusion over Marxism-Leninism.

Edit: Here’s a direct link for those having trouble accessing.

DAMunzy, (edited )

What is this linked to? Not opening for me.

Edit: nevermind. I opened it in my browser. I wonder if I have this community or person blocked in Boost for Lemmy.

Copied with some formatting:

You can see on ProleWiki what Lemmygrad.ml’s stances are, in their words, and why. Their article on the Russian Federation backs up what you’ve said, they believe it is extremely reactionary with horrifying treatment of LGBTQ people and is currently ruled by the Nationalist party, but critically support Russia insofar as it opposes Western hedgemony and Imperialism, and no more than that.

Critically, Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and much of Lemmy.ml see Lenin’s definition of Imperialism as the number one obstacle in Socialism’s advance, that is, the state in Capitalism where Imperialist countries export machinery and finances to the third world in order to super-exploit outsider populations for super-profits domestically. This is a necessity within Capitalism to combat the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall. It’s the concept of unequal exchange.

Now, of course you do not have to agree with Lemmygrad or Hexbear or Lemmy.ml, but as someone who regularly sees these posts, there are no delusional posters who somehow think the Russian Federation is still Communist or that Putin is secretly rebuilding the USSR.

ProleWiki: Political line

We are guided by Marxism-Leninism, mainly the works of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Vladimir Lenin. Based on that, ProleWiki upholds the currently developing dictatorships of the proletariat in:


<span style="color:#323232;">Republic of Cuba
</span><span style="color:#323232;">People's Republic of China
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Democratic People's Republic of Korea
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Socialist Republic of Vietnam
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Lao People's Democratic Republic
</span>

Really‽ They hold North Korea in high regard? I can see liking some of what Cuba, China, and Vietnam have done, but NK? I don’t know enough about Laos to comment.

Sprawlie,

Edit: nevermind. I opened it in my browser. I wonder if I have this community or person blocked in Boost for Lemmy.

you probably did what I did after my first week on Lemee, and just block the .ml instance completely from my feed. it’s absolutely insane and is the prime example of why Federation doesn’t really work great if not all federated servers are subject to the same rules.

.ml will outright let hate, violence and threats stand. But will instance ban anyone who questions their tankies.

DAMunzy,

I don’t block entire instances, just the individual communities. I’ve been tempted with that one and beehaw(sp?) but I haven’t yet.

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

“Russian special military operation in Ukraine is an anti-imperialist project.”

“US military aid to Ukraine is an imperialist act.”

Statements made by the utterly deranged.

Thcdenton,

I’m quick to ban communities from my feed that are political. I’m just here for the memes and tits - Not to doomscroll or argue about shit I don’t understand.

Pilferjinx,

That’s fair and I hope those communities continue to grow and mature. I do enjoy the good faith discussions that happen here more often than other sites myself.

daltotron,

I feel like no matter what instance I go to I’m probably just going to end up disliking a large chunk of the posters, because I think after 20 years of being raised online, I just fucking hate memes straight up.

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