Dusty,

Oh. Cool. Yet another reddit drama thread in /c/technology

When do we change the name of this community to /c/YetAnotherRedditDramaCommunity instead of /c/technology ?

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

I suspect there are a lot of people here who are interested in Reddit, and also there might be something going on over on Reddit that's resulting in a lot of news being generated about it.

Just a guess.

Dusty,

That's great, there are many places dedicated to just that topic! It doesn't need to keep being posted here cluttering up actual news about actual tech items.

I don't go to /c/cats and post about dogs. Or to /c/America and post about Europe. There is a place for everything. This community has been constantly clogged up with crap about reddit.

CoderKat,
CoderKat avatar

Of course, that's understandable. But there's too many people here that are interested in the reddit drama such that it ends up taking over many subs, drowning out other content.

It's like how r/worldnews was created, because despite r/news being general, there was so many Americans that US news dominated the sub. We need to do the same with reddit drama IMO.

bumbly, (edited )

I agree, this belongs on https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration , /search?q=snoocalypse@lemmy.ml, !Reddit Fails@forum.fail or something similar.

VoxAdActa,
VoxAdActa avatar

Can we please keep the Reddit spam in the specific Reddit-centered communities? I'm trying to stop paying attention to Reddit.

LostCause,

The power lies in leaving Reddit behind.

Talaraine,
Talaraine avatar

There's posts from mods who.... don't have to mod. A special group of people migrated here, that know what they want and are building it with their actions. Just keep being you. Post good content, thoughtful comments. Build it and they will come. Literally haven't logged back onto Reddit since Blackout and have just stopped thinking about them.

grte,

Powerless to change Reddit. You can always do what I did and use lemmy instead.

Dee_Imaginarium,
@Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org avatar

This is the way.

It's been so much nicer tbh, at least on Beehaw. I don't have any reason to go back with Lemmy and RSS feeds

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@beehaw.org avatar

Same!

Chickerino,

i find that the lack of community videos really holds me back from using lemmy as a primary website, but i do understand that video hosting is expensive, just kinda sucks

Dee_Imaginarium,
@Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org avatar

I'm not big on video content so that doesn't bother me at all, but I could see how that might hold some people back if they prefer that.

That being said PeerTube is in the world, still a ways to go but it's comin'

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Yes! I’m also powerless to change every other social media platform out there. I’m glad to be here

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Path of least resistance is usually best in these cases, and frankly, it’s nicer here. I have been waiting for Lemmy to pick up after trying other fediverse applications and there is no way I am going back for any application. Now we just need YT to implode.

fievel,

If this reddit change did not occurred, I probably never had tried Lemmy (even if I’m in OSS world for 20+ years now). First thought is that I don’t think communities going black or mods leaving reddit will do anything to reddit, it’s so big and alternative are somehow a niche for geek that they will not loose most of their user base. For mods they’ll find out some way … On the other hand, I don’t care, I’m happy here on the fediverse, I participated more discussion here in 1 month than in years on reddit. I had bad experience on my first posts on reddit (probably not interesting enough for some and then downvoted a lot), and I think that I just always thought if my post will be appreciated or not and so and finally just didn’t post. I don’t have this feeling here.

IronRain,

I also had a terrible first experience posting on Reddit, which turned me off from activity submitting any content and only commenting rarely. I mostly lurked and voted, which I still thought of as participating in the community. But in my short time here (Kbin for me), I see the entire userbase as activity welcoming and generally nicer! Just looking at the voting scores, it seems that downvots are hardly used at all! Maybe it's a good thing we're separating from the common audience that was quick to turn toxic and become combative for the fun of it.

norbert,
norbert avatar

I haven't gone back since the blackout, I get my content here and some other bookmarks I'd forgotten about.

Turns out a whole bunch of us were sick of reddit anyway and were eagerly awaiting a new place to go. I'd have never heard of the Fediverse if reddit hadn't been dicks about API pricing. I knew as soon as I came here and started exploring that this was the way to go; reddit is old news, it's been around for 18 years, that's forever in internet time. It's time to move onto the next thing and the idea of hundreds (thousands!) of federated servers talking and sharing content across platforms is very exciting to me.

lackthought,
@lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

this is my experience as well

I’ve been unhappy with the quality at reddit for years but there was no reasonable alternative that I knew about

I had heard about Mastodon but never really researched the wider fediverse until recently

now I will pretty much never use any corporate owned website again and will exclusively use federated software

Schluchtschiss,
Schluchtschiss avatar

speak for yourself, powerless youtuber 🖕

Aravarth,

I've deleted reddit from my phone. I haven't deleted my account, it's just going to remain dormant. Had smth like 200k+ karma. I'm just gonna chill here instead, it seems a much happier place. That, and the fact that I'm not constantly doomscrolling on my phone has done wonders for my mental health (I only do social media on my PC now, and sparingly at that).

nanometre,

This sounds exactly like me. I go on a few subreddits still on my laptop, but only because there is no place else for some of my very niche hobbies. I don't engage anymore though, I'm not logged in, I just lurk (though that's been made increasingly difficult to do).

My sleep has improved a lot by not having Reddit on my phone. Better sleep = better mental health.

Stay strong!

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org avatar

They need to embrace the dark side.

Mika7150,

powerless? Reddit has like 0% of my daily Mindshare and I have here now which doesn't really feel meaningfully different in any negative way, only positive ones! I like to think I had the power to change my life for the better in this aspect, and I did

flashgnash,

"powerless" just use Lemmy it's not like there's really anything meaningful to hold you on Reddit, afaik people don't really make friends on Reddit or anything

YourHeroes4Ghosts,
@YourHeroes4Ghosts@beehaw.org avatar

This is what made the decision for me. All the enshittification aside- in 15 years on Reddit, I did not make one lasting relationship with another human being there, even though I tried very hard at times (via everything ranging from Secret Santa to local meetup subs, to niche interest subs, and more). I have friends online that I have only known online since the 1990s, so it's not that I'm "un-befriendable". Reddit allows people to form mobs, not true communities, which almost always have many subsets of friends and acquaintances, rather than a bunch of strangers who actually don't care at all if one of their members disappears.

hassanmckusick,

If your username is a Pink Floyd reference I’ll be your friend

YourHeroes4Ghosts,
@YourHeroes4Ghosts@beehaw.org avatar

Of course it is, and also in memoriam of...lots of people, I suppose. If you like "Wish You Were Here" you probably get it.

jherazob,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar
CanadaPlus,

Yeah, it’s a really easy transition. Without watching the video, no users (and even moreso mods) are not powerless, and the fat lady absolutely has not sung yet.

flora_explora,

It depends very much on how you use reddit. E.g. there are no mental health communities here that really helped me through difficult times. There are so many specialized communities on reddit that helped me a lot, that won't just move over here on Lemmy. I get that if you only looked at the general feed, you don't miss out on much on lemmy. But I never used reddit like this and now I really feel like lemmy is (still) missing the best parts of reddit :/

null,

Keep in mind you’re comparing a very mature platform with one that’s literally still in alpha.

flora_explora,

I was responding to "just use Lemmy, there is nothing meaningful holding you to reddit". Sure I'm hopeful that Lemmy will grow. The comment above just annoyed me because it was suggesting that it is as easy for everyone to leave reddit. No, it's not. But it will soon be OK, hopefully.

floga,

True, but that doesn’t change the fact that if you need that kind of support right now, you’re dependent on Reddit.

And I think it’ll take a while for Lemmy to build the size of user base that makes those kinds of specialised communities viable, unfortunately. Although I very much hope it happens.

null,

Granted – I think it’s the “(still)” remark that prompted mine.

Certainly a tough pill to swallow that to continue participating in those communities you either need to keep feeding the beast, or go wherever the majority of that community goes (which simply may not end up being Lemmy).

nullptr,

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  • Exilfranke,

    If you are a member of such a small community, be sure to create it here. Users will usually take a look at Lemmy and first search for their favorite topics. If they don't find anything, they will go back to Reddit...

    YourHeroes4Ghosts,
    @YourHeroes4Ghosts@beehaw.org avatar

    I don't know, my brother has been a Redditor for as long as I was (15 years) and he became angry and hostile when I told him about Lemmy. We're both in our 50s.

    He's been using the official Reddit app for years and claims it "works perfectly for him". He seems utterly blind to Reddit's enshittificaton. He's always been kind of an asshole- he behaved the same when I quit Facebook, though he eventually did the same- and he also fears new tech (he didn't have a smartphone until 2020). I wonder if people like him- of which I'm sure there are plenty- will ever wake up.

    bbtai,

    We'll see how it plays out. I have a feeling reddit may currently be putting in artificial upvotes and comments to save things. They've done it when reddit got their start, and as someone who works in tech, I know nothing's stopping them to create a fake 10 year old account with thousands of karma and fake old replies to do some social engineering to make it appear that nothing has changed. This might work out, or it might not.

    that_one_guy,

    I know nothing’s stopping them to create a fake 10 year old account with thousands of karma and fake old replies to do some social engineering to make it appear that nothing has changed

    No need to create them, they've got lots of old 'deleted' accounts they can resurrect for this purpose.

    fing3r,

    To be fair, if i didn’t learn about lemmy, i would be back on reddit at this point. It just kills the boredom in a way nothing else does.

    reric88,
    @reric88@beehaw.org avatar

    I would have probably landed somewhere besides reddit. I considered and tried 3 different options, (Lemmy being the third) and stayed here because I was very pleased by the beehaw community. And it's very similar to reddit, which made the transition easier.

    I'm doing my best to ditch reddit, and haven't used it since they announced the API pricing

    worfamerryman,

    Same! I have no problem with the smaller lemmy community. It will grow over time. Each person who comments or posts here is helping it to become a better place.

    troyunrau,
    @troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yep, best thing you can do it post and comment. The 90:10 rule of lurkers to content creators likely applies. But critical mass requires the lurkers to stick around – because some percentage of them will eventually turn into content creators. When someone from Reddit checks out Lemmy for the first time, they’re going to evaluate based on volume of content and discussion. If the equivalents of their favourite subs are all ghost towns, they’ll just leave back for reddit. So the ratio needs to be higher to get the ball rolling.

    I’m taking my own advice. On Reddit, I was fairly active. 11 year account, moderated one largish sub, 17k post karma, 200k comment karma. I still moderate that sub, because the community is important. But I’ve got a stickied post pointing to the equivalent on Lemmy.

    But it’s super quiet in there, by comparison, and I cannot be the sole source of content in a community, or it just becomes me shouting down the void. This same pattern is likely repeating across the fediverse.

    But there’s hope. Yesterday, two of the communities I’ve been trying to seed got their first external posts. !geology and !spacemusic.

    aaronbieber,
    @aaronbieber@beehaw.org avatar

    It feels like realizing that WhatsApp is a terrible Meta privacy nightmare, but you can't wake up because you can't convince your whole family to use Signal.

    heftig,
    @heftig@beehaw.org avatar

    I've tried, but Signal is just too cumbersome to use. I sorely miss a web client and my family members sorely miss an Android tablet client. This makes it hard to recommend.

    mrmanager,
    @mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

    Powerless... Lol. Maybe if you have shit for brains and keep using reddit.

    dandelion,

    Go easy on people. It's hard to change, and something like lemmy can be intimidating for people to get on board with. That's ignoring the fact that even if they move they can't force their communities to come with them.

    I'm personally happy to see the back of Reddit, and am convincing anyone I can to switch too, but I can understand the challenge for the average user to switch. Hell, even Reddit is a technical step-up for a lotta people. The tech world has forced a paradigm that traps the average user, using the fact it all appears free as the bait. Be angry at big tech, not the ones they swindled.

    TheTrueLinuxDev,

    Powerless to change Reddit, yes, but not powerless to find a new community!

    To everyone hanging in the fediverse, I just want to say, I am proud of all of you!

    megopie,

    NGL I’ve found the communities on here to be much more genuine. It feels like things are less manipulated, like there are less bots and less advertising companies trying to do guerrilla marketing.

    Might just be that these communities are small enough that such things are not worth the time of those who would do such things.

    At this point I think I’ll always just migrate to smaller communities as time goes on.

    TheTrueLinuxDev,

    I think so long that the community is on an invite-basis community, it raise the cost of botting the website much higher than other platforms so it can de-incentivize them from gaming the platform.

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