So. I just bought a new telly and to my surprise, not, the OS is rather bad and has very limited amount of apps. Therefore I’ll invest further in either Apple TV or the Firestick. Anyone got any recommendations, tips or hot takes on this? Which has more adds, and can it be blocked via DNS? Further read that Firestick could be jailbreaked, that has my interest 🦊
FireTV 4K is full of ads and is slow; also, the 3rd party apps vary greatly. Nebula crashes a lot, and Crunchyroll is a hot mess. I was thinking of replacing it with an Apple TV, but since I’d like a device for indie games and Honkai Star Rail, I’ve decided to get a mini PC instead. It’s arriving today, so I can’t tell you how it is, but price wise, it’s $185 and it runs on an Intel N100, so it’s energy efficient.
Assuming you’re British (“telly”), consider a Mi Box (not Mi Stick, it’s too sluggish). You’ll get all the bells and whistles you need, but also possibility of sideloading stuff when needed because it’s stock Android TV
I had a Firestick 4K then swapped it out for an AppleTV 4K. The Apple TV UX is really clean, fast, and lovely. The Fire TV stick had adverts and stuff in it and the UI, while simple, felt cluttered and a bit confusing in comparison. Fire TV just felt like an amazon storefront and it was difficult understanding what I did or didn’t actually have access to. On Apple TV, your content is featured first and foremost, and it recommends shows to you based on what you’re subscribed to rather than what it thinks you’ll spend money on.
The downside to Apple TV is that apps that haven’t fully integrated (namely Netflix) get kind of swept aside. There is no side loading and no browser, so you can’t get unofficial apps running on the system like on Fire TV. (I used to have a side loaded app that just let me stream movies and shows from some sketchy, foreign website) There’s also no VPN for Apple TV currently, but that’s coming with the next major software upgrade.
I have a Fire TV Stick Lite and it’s awful. The UI is sluggish and using it for anything is a chore. Perhaps if I had got a higher spec one it would be different, but honestly I cannot recommend this particular device at all.
My hot take is the AppleTV will last you years where the fire stick will probably get frustrating after a while.
By that I mean the AppleTV is fast. Of the other streaming devices I’ve used (newer chromecast, Rokus), my first gen AppleTV 4K still is snappy and feels better. I think I got this thing in 2018.
That may not be the end all for you, but when you compare a lot of these devices back to back, the AppleTV just feels better to use.
I am not a fan of Apple but I completely agree. I was a home automation programmer for years and that included AV.
Personally I use a Roku I got for free but AppleTV has unmatched quality and experience for a standalone streaming box.
The only downside is that IP control requires you to set it up as part of your apple home. If you don’t want to do that, you’ll have to use IR and IR control sucks.
I also much prefer the old remote design (without Siri) but that’s just an opinion.
My brother is a home theater project manager, and he generally likes Roku the best since they can integrate it easier (or something). But they just feel cheaper to me overall. And I have a pretty standard 5.1 setup (hopefully adding Atmos soon), so the AppleTV works great in my setup.
I really like the original 4K remote. It lets you zoom around the interface so fast.
He’s right! Roku is soooo easy to integrate…you just plop in the IP and give it permission and you’re good to go. They have GREAT drivers for every system I have experience with.
The biggest downside of Roku is the gigantic ads on the home screen. To get rid of those you need to do some router config which can be annoying (or impossible in some situations) but when I use it I don’t spend much time outside of apps
Also agree with Apple vs Firestick. The Firestick felt extremely sluggish. I personally just use my Xbox, so if you already have one then it’s a great option. I just bought a Logitech external remote since I don’t like to use the controller all the time.
The old remote as in the one that’s probably around 7 years old? There are two Siri Remotes. A glass one with just a track pad and some buttons and an aluminium one with a circular trackpad that also has physical navigation buttons and the rest of the buttons. Both have Siri
Y’know, I honestly really liked that remote too. Although I will say, after using, I like Gen 2 as well. When I hear “the old remote” though, I think of the ancient one without the trackpad that legit just had navigation buttons haha
You don’t have to subscribe to Amazon Prime to use the other TV services. You can also install Kodi if you want to play back local media.
The FireStick will use USB power - so you can use your TV’s USB ports rather than a separate plug. It also has an Ethernet adapter - I think only the more expensive Apple devices use Ethernet.
Neither. Both take away your freedom. This is subjective, but I would personally put a little media computer together. They sell them as small as a deck of cards and will have more than enough power to do 4K. Then, you can choose if you want ads, choose which services to use, choose which software you want, use whatever peripherals you want, etc.
This is what I’ve been wanting to do, however, I still don’t think there’s any easy way to stream high quality content from streaming services due to DRM. I’ve already been experiencing this with my fancy new monitor, it is a very good monitor, but no streaming services allow higher than 1080p (or even 720p) video or HDR on PC, except for Netflix using the Windows app. Pirated content looks great with a 21:9 QD-OLED monitor though. For now I’ve just been using a Google TV Chromecast, which allows sideloading Android TV apps like the Fire stick.
For what it’s worth, I have an Apple TV, I love it. Really smooth, fast interface. Works really well. Voice search isn’t even terrible! For an Apple product. It really improves the TV experience. My only frustration is mixed app support, e.g. Netflix has an app that works fine but it doesn’t integrate into the rest of Apple TV which sucks. Also… apples walled garden can be annoying at times, so I also have a chromecast for the rare case I need to go around one of apples arbitrary restrictions.
AppleTV UI is smooth, and it builds a “master queue” of programs you are watching or want to watch across services (similar to Plex). The exception to this is Netflix — they refuse to “opt in” to this service for some reason.
It also doubles as a Homekit hub if you need something like that.
FireTV has a bunch of ads and it seems harder to remove on the newer models / firmwares. For Android, I would suggest something with Android TV like Chromecast with Google TV or Onn Android TV. I have no experience with apple tv so I can’t be sure.
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