These laws are fine until something better than c comes out. Then we have to wait for laws to be updated to make changes. We all know how slow government moves.
That kind of things are not wrote as laws. What they usually do, is wrote a law creating a regulatory body, or given the power to an existing one, that can determine how it works. So, when new technologies come around, the regulator just need to update the regulations without the need of a new law.
USB-C isn’t better than lighting when it comes to being a port on your phone. With how poorly implemented C is on most devices, the only thing it would have going for it is the interior ability of USB 2.0.
The thing though is that lightning port is proprietary to Apple while USB is an open standard (in the sense that anyone can use it in their products. There are fees to have a vendor ID)
You have all these USB devices at home, but you need another cable for your phone only to line a company’s pocket.
Apple can absolutely implement USB-C properly and stop fleecing their customers
It being proprietary is virtually irrelevant considering how many bootleg products out here use it. And now all those bootleg manufacturers are going to make USB-C stuff that isn’t up to spec.
It being proprietary stops people from actually implementing it correctly.
It closes the market to either buy a 40$ cable from Apple which is fucking highway robbery, or you get shitty knockoff. No in-between. Proprietary has never been a good thing for consumers and never will.
So far, nothing I’ve ever owned has had a C connector, I have two computers with c ports, but nothing to plug in to them. Also, does the thunderbolt look like the USBc? If you plug in a thunderbolt device into a USBc, does it work or burn out the port?
What devices do you have that connect over usb-c aside from a phone? As far as I’ve seen, it’s still not common for keyboards, mice, webcams, controllers, monitors, printers, or external drives (though I’d admit drives are becoming more common, particularly for ssds). I’m honestly curious, because I feel like I’m missing out.
Ah, for charging, sure. The comment I was replying to seemed like they were talking about interacting/interfacing via usb-c with their desktop, not just charging, which is certainly becoming more common.
I’ve got a USB doc, a security key for work, and an audio interface. I also have a charger for my computer that plugs into USB C. It’s much nicer for laptops to save space but USB A is still better for my desktop since I’m not swapping things much and C would get knocked out more easily
Type C is the connector which can either be power only, power and data, power data and video, or thunderbolt which is basically faster power data and video. You can’t really burn out the port with the wrong device or charger, it either won’t charge, charge slowly, or not work.
Thanks for answering. Is a old computer with thunderbolt 2 port able to connect thunderbolt 3 & 4 monitors or storage devices? I’m tempted to get an old thunderbolt 2 card for my computer, but don’t know if it’s really a useable port in 2023
Thunderbolt 2 can support a single 4K monitor and they still make TB2 external storage devices. Apple makes a bidirectional adapter that will allow some 3&4 devices to work with a 2 port but every device is different and most will not be officially supported. Link to adapter is apple.com/…/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-…
I would not add a TB2 card to an older machine though. Just find an adapter that works with the fastest port on that machine. There are plenty of devices that work well with usb3.
Just about everything except truly basement-tier China tech sitting in warehouses has C now so you'll soon be glad to have the ports.
USB C is a form factor (pretty little reversible oval cable). Thunderbolt is a protocol and yes it uses USB C for the form factor. Other protocols on USB C cabling include 2.0 (ancient speed, used for charging only these days), 3.1 (old speed) 3.2 (slightly old but also not, it's weird, and most common nowadays), DisplayPort (lovely modern video standard), and USB4 (which is newest and fast, but not quite as fast as TB). Decent rule of thumb is USB4 will always be one step behind Thunderbolt in speed (currently ~80gbps vs 40gbps in USB4). The cable will work at the fastest speed permitted by both devices. If they both have TB, then TB speed and power. If only one is TB, it'll go at USB speed over yes the same cable because...
Lastly, any proper spec cable will negotiate the best, safest power transfer between chargers and devices. So just don't buy complete junk, read a couple reviews, you'll almost certainly be fine.
2.0 (ancient speed, used for charging only these days)
And for uploading the firmware into nearly every small device you have that has a microcontroller with some flash memory on it. They still use TTL serial, so a USB 2.0 to TTL serial adapter is often used. It's also still widely in use for, again, programming of things like commercial/industrial fire/burglar alarm panels.
Often, things we consider "old" in the consumer space go on to live for decades just fine in the industrial/commercial space.
I don’t entirely agree with you. It’s still very standard for wired mouse and keyboard to use USB A. USB A isn’t going anywhere for a while on desktops. I think you’re right about laptops though, it’s a much better experience
I can’t find any more info on the Saudi law, but I believe the EU law at least has provisions for moving to a new standard in the future if a better alternative comes along. So when USB-D arrives, if it is seen to be a better standard, the EU can mandate that it becomes the new charging standard.
It used to be that Apple wanted to have their own standard in part to be able to sell more cables. By switching now, is actually not stupid- everyone have to buy new cables again
I think I read a rumor a while back that iPhones will still limit your charge rate if you don’t have an approved cable. I don’t know if that’s still the case, but I could see it.
I think they’ll just improve their MagSafe cable capabilities to try and get customers to buy that instead of the regular usb-c cable. But the rumor always sounded like bs to me. It’s just too on the nose.
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