troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Man, what a waste of engineering talent. These drones are actually super cool and they’re being used to suicide bomb. Ffs

The persian engineering teams should mass defect to Korea and go work at Samsung or something.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

What’s special about them? Seem like pretty basic drones.

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

The fibreglass lifting body immediately makes it more than your basic drone. Granted it’s not exactly rocket science, but you still need to get the shape right, make a giant mandrel, fit all those panels and doors together nicely. And then you need to figure out a production line that makes it cheap enough to mass produce them – after all, they get exploded.

Just imagine they used all of those tools and skills to make sailboats instead. Or still in the drone form-factor, have them circle events with a 5g cell relay on them or something. War sucks but it pays salaries, sadly.

Peppycito,

A sailboat is probably way easier to build. Just more laborious.

Gregorech,

Just a flying cell phone nothing abnormal…

mvirts,

Should have been kept quiet so that kyivstar can provide warning and tracking of these systems. Maybe they did. Maybe it’s already played out. I guess the story here is that Russia doesn’t have a c&c radio network that works?

Son_of_dad,

I’ve been seeing a lot of news from Ukraine that make me wonder why they’re not being more secretive. Don’t give the Russians anything.

Damage,

I see an XT plug. Do they use AliExpress battery packs?

TwanHE,

I mean why not use the plug most batteries come with?

_dev_null,
@_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

Sourcing COTS hardware is a thing for sure, especially if your country is under heavy embargo for the military grade shit.

Joker,

Probably a mistake to reveal this info. After recovering the SIM, it may have been possible to go back and see the network traffic from the drone. That could create an opportunity to disrupt or hijack drone c&c in the future.

bluGill,
bluGill avatar

Most likely it is encrypted and so there isn't anything useful to learn.

bane_killgrind,

Frequency of transmissions and amount of data transmitted should offer some information.

uberkalden,

I wouldn’t be so sure if they have to use Ukraine’s cell network, but possibly

TheOSINTguy,

This close up picture goes to show you how large those drones actually are.

funkajunk,
@funkajunk@lemm.ee avatar

Where’s the banana for scale?

ObviouslyNotBanana,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

On Lemmy we should use lemons

Alchemy,
@Alchemy@lemmy.world avatar

if we need to scale a few things at once, would it be a lemon party?

TonyTonyChopper,

going off the grass and the fence I’d say 2m wingspan

edit: https://iranprimer.usip.org/sites/default/files/Shahed-136%20Infographic.jpg

turkalino,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

Everyone always underestimates how big drones are because they look so much like model aircraft

Specs for the USAF’s main drone (MQ-9 Reaper):

  • Length: 36 ft 1 in (11 m)
  • Wingspan: 65 ft 7 in (20 m)
  • Height: 12 ft 6 in (3.81 m)
someguy3,

Doesn’t surprise me. Russia wants to use ones that won’t get jammed and they can’t be that hard to get.

athos77,

Especially since Russia stole all those people from Ukraine.

DontTreadOnBigfoot,
@DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

This is why kids shouldn’t have cell phones.

Russia might try to war crime them.

Buddahriffic,

Ukraine should build some protections into their cell network. Like if the signal is coming from a high altitude and doesn’t follow any known commercial flight path (if commercial flights are even flying in that area), or if it exceeds a certain speed that varies, and isn’t on a Ukraine military whitelist, then interrupt the signal just enough to make it ineffective for combat.

Daxtron2,

I dont think you can determine altitude solely from a cell signal

Buddahriffic,

It’s physically possible, though depends on if the receivers care about the vertical signal direction (for determining up) and if two towers can see it at the same time (for determining how high up, if signal quality alone isn’t enough to estimate it, though with these custom devices, it’s probably not reliable to go by signal strength). I don’t know if any go to that length, inside Ukraine or outside.

postmateDumbass,

Just need 3 recievers on the ground, time synced oc, and you can find 3D position of the transmitter.

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