So in other words yet another thing that Linux already had for the past 20 years? Go on like this and in 50 years Microsoft might actually have a capable operating system.
Dump windows, Install Linux, stop paying Microsoft money for badly designed crap that will spy on you.
I’ve been using Linux desktop for a good 20 years now. All debian based distros (loads of them) do, all redhead based ones do, and those two together likely comprise the majority of distros.
I can’t remember the last time I rebooted my desktop (or servers, for what it matters) beyond a power outage in the office
Your updates both do not apply kernel updates but also aren’t applying in general unless you are restarting all apps, services, and sessions. Basically just reboot.
Only servers administrated well do online updates correctly.
I used to want this, but the latest updates of windows have all been so buggy. I’d prefer to not have this shit happen in mid usage. They once fucked up the search by accident and it was disrupting enough to my workflow until I found ways to disable the search being a default web search.
It looks like it’s just security updates, not feature updates. So I would take this as a win. If a 0-day is discovered, being able to update systems to fix it without a restart is fantastic. I know plenty of people who avoid restarting their computer if they see the update icon in their system tray. If we are talking security, these people could be leaving themselves vulnerable for days/weeks. Being able to push security patches without restarts is a big win.
I actually meant Group Policy Editor. Sometimes I make mistakes like that. I will not dive into how precisely I made the mistake.
Coming to your second point, of course it is vulnerable, but I meant it in a practical sense. I am not here to waste time debating, so I am leaving it at that.
I found more info: Microsoft SQL Server Engine already does hot patching and I guess the same way will be used in other MS apps: techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/…/849700
I remember some years ago there was a “malware” going around that would flash OpenWRT onto people’s routers, and set them to have more secure default settings.
There should be another thing like that, but one that upgrades Windows into a Linux distro.
Well, the US government has at least twice broken into infected US devices and fixed things. IDK about installing OpenWRT but the stories have some overlap
When did you last use windows, lol? Windows is pretty damn stable nowadays. I don’t think an update has ever broken my windows 10 install that is still going from 2016.
I’ve gotten a number of calls from clients recently where a Windows update uninstalled the Bluetooth drivers, making their Bluetooth mouse and keyboard unusable.
I’ve even had a few where an update uninstalled the WiFi drivers so they couldn’t even download the drivers without a wired network connection.
Windows 10 & 11comes pre-packaged with generic wifi and bluetooth drivers that work with the vast majority of the common chipsets.
If a device has forgotten which driver it has, re-aasining the generic driver should be enough to get you operational enough to go grab any advanced drivers for extended device functionality.
Also, as an FYI, I had a fleet (~150) of decommissioned machines (probabaly 20-30 different model over 5 makes) I was converting into a Linux(Deb) distrubuted node automation farm. The amount of times I had to go find drivers (network interfaces were the cost common) that supported the hardware that Linux didn’t have default driver support for was prevelant. That was a very long 2 weeks.
I run arch BTW, 7 years throwing it down stairs, running commands that I had no idea what they did, learned linux from scratch deleting chunks of my hdd compiling and installing random software, never once had it break bad enough to reinstall . I bet you love ltt too haha… maby you should stick to a beginner os like Windows, I’ve heard Apple is even easier… or why don’t you just pay someone smarter than you to host and troubleshoot your os while they market your info and habits to the highest bidder… oh wait
Been running Arch on my work laptop for over a year. Still waiting for the fabled difficulty and update breaks. Starting to think in modern times its perpetuated to keep people on Windows.
Must be nice. It’s been about seven years since I last dove into Linux, so maybe things have changed. But also in that time, windows became even more stable than it was, and it’s silky smooth these days.
I don’t see any benefits to even trying Linux again.
The user. Depending on what they try to do, it can easily break Linux. (looking at me somehow breaking KDE Plasma and somehow fixing it without understanding how it broke or how I fixed it)
Updating (from what I understand, mostly a big issue on rolling release distros like Arch or Manjaro). Bleeding edge software with major bugs the stable release don’t get can always cause instability.
Though, I will say, that I’ve never had win10 crash on me unless I have too much stuff open or am being an absolute idiot. Windows always seems to be stable, at least I’ve never had issues for a long time.
Let’s be honest though. I’m a big fan of Linux/Unix systems, but if (not saying that’s necessarily the case) a normal user can break their installation by being a normal user, it’s not suited for normal users.
Windows is a pain in the ass imo, but pretty hard for a normal user to break in my experience.
Sometimes people just don’t think about that people can have different wants and needs.
All, literally every game I want to play runs great in Linux, and my hobbies of self hosting, development, homelabbing, and data hoarding are all leagues better on it.
That doesn’t make a good choice for my friend that only logs on to play destiny 2. It also doesn’t matter why, to my friend, its a bad choice. It could be the devs are chained and lashed by Microsoft for even mentioning Linux in the office, but what matters to someonethatt only wants to play that game with friends is whether it works.
Honestly not being able to move the start bar and being told it won’t be changed because their awful new start menu needs it that way was a dealbreaker. Been running Linux Mint exclusively on my desktop for the past few months and it’s been pretty smooth, even for playing games. Thank goodness for Proton!
Yup. Been using Linux as my primary desktop for years, I think I switched back to windows 2012-2015 or something, then I came back ever since. More and more games are using tools that are cross platform now too - like unity for example. I only imagine compatibility getting better. The installation experience has been better since live CDs were a thing too which is hilarious since windows still has a terrible install UI.
I’ve been using both OSs for over 20 years and the ONLY reason I use windows is for CAD (just 2d). All the foss options have potential but are very poor options for a longtime autocad user. Wine implementation is currently broken/terrible. VM is sorta a fallback option but doesn’t run as fast as a native windows machine.
I plan on switching to Librecad or something similar but it’s like a 10/20 year plan and something tells me I’ll have to develop the features I want myself.
I don’t think those words describe what the intended behavior is, no. I think it’s supposed to be seamless and not really too noticeable. That’s the impression I got from the article anyway.
Had a movie stop playing the other week (I use my PC as a Jellyfin server and watch on a Nvidia Shield in another room). I thought something had crashed, but when I went upstairs to check, it had realised nobody was watching it and fucking rebooted.
Steam itself does support VR on Linux, but most of the actual hardware (like Meta headsets) don’t have drivers for Linux. The ones that do (Valve Index) are buggy, but not unusable. But even then it doesn’t get you far, because 90% of VR games won’t run on Linux, even with Proton.
So Steam is not the problem. Hardware support and developer support is the problem. Can’t really blame developers for not caring, even if they make their VR game work on Linux almost no one would be able to play it anyway, so why bother. It won’t get anywhere unless hardware manufactures start making actual drivers for their headsets on Linux. Meta practically controls the market and they don’t care, so here we are.
A Steamlink app was added to the Meta store recently. It supposedly allows playing streamed desktop VR. I have been meaning to try it with Steam on my Linux desktop, so I can’t really vouch for it yet, it could just not work. And who knows if Proton works for any specific VR games.
You’ve clearly not had an update trigger when you were trying to present something, join a meeting, or simply do a quick restart after installing a program and get hit with a 10min “updating windows; do not shut off”
I’ve had to create GP edits to prevent it from happening because it most certainly does.
Even then MS is fantastic at throwing up MFA reauthentication mid meeting or forgetting to throw it up at all and leaving you shadow logged into Outlook/Teams where it will appear functional from your side, but you will it receive anything until you close and reopen the apps.
They’ve had these issues for years and never prioritize fixing them.
Update small system components (packages) and load the old into ram until rebooting; I don’t think this is possible on windows.
A/B Image Based Updating; Android and a few Linux distros have this; probably one of the most stable methods.
Live boot updates/Kernel-space Hot Patching; found mostly in Linux servers, and distros with a patched kernel; used mostly for security updates which is what windows is doing here, but Linux can do feature updates this way too.
Windows is very lazy about reboots. Minesweeper changed? Better reboot.
Chrome also got infected with this laziness. It used to be that you had to restart chrome once a month, now it’s almost every day. Among many other reasons, that’s why I’m happy to be using Firefox again.
The chrome OS is method is pretty cool having a mirrored partitions the one not being used gets updated if there’s an error the other one gets booted and reverted
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