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cerement, in Cannonball tree
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“The fruit flesh is white and turns blue upon oxidation, a reaction with air.” —Wikipedia

LibertyLizard,
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It is a wild species in almost every respect.

MercurySunrise, in EDIBLE FOREST GARDEN · Grow Food & Heal the Earth · Lessons Learned

This is super awesome and informative. Thanks!

toothpicks, in Defendants unmasked in court face cost of damage for allegedly felling famous 150-year-old tree

Someone just ran over a fully grown tree on my street corner and I’m pissed

JCreazy, in Defendants unmasked in court face cost of damage for allegedly felling famous 150-year-old tree

Imagine being an adult and thinking this is an acceptable thing to do. Why are there so many shitheads in the world?

whostosay,

Covid didn’t do enough

LibertyLizard, in Defendants unmasked in court face cost of damage for allegedly felling famous 150-year-old tree
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So we still don’t know what the motive was?

Observer1199,

They haven’t admitted to doing it. One plead not guilty, the other entered no plea. I doubt there will ever be a good reason given, I struggle to even imagine any justification. Sometimes humanity really acts like a virus that earth needs to get rid of 🤷‍♂️

ZeroCool, (edited )

Nope, as far as I’m aware a motive hasn’t been made public. But I’m willing to chalk it up to some people just being miserable jerks.

Zagorath,
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chock it up

Chalk it up?

ZeroCool,

Are you asking me or just deliberately being a dick about a spelling mistake? Don’t answer that. It’s a rhetorical question.

Zagorath,
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Neither of the above. The question mark indicates a rising tone (common in informal speech), as a way to reduce intensity and specifically not be a dick about it. It’s a polite and friendly way of letting you know you made a fairly easy-to-understand mistake (it’s basically a mondegreen), and what the correct phrase is.

LibertyLizard,
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Miserable jerks are definitely way more common than they should be but cutting a tree is a lot of work. It’s hard to believe they didn’t have some kind of motive beyond just stirring up shit. Maybe we’ll find out during or after the trial.

ThrowawaySobriquet, in Defendants unmasked in court face cost of damage for allegedly felling famous 150-year-old tree
maculata, (edited ) in Defendants unmasked in court face cost of damage for allegedly felling famous 150-year-old tree

Edit: Oh shit! SORRY! I looked at the little picture on my phone and truly didn’t see the balaclavas until I just opened the article up on a large PC screen now!

I’ll leave up my mistake (below) as a testament to my poor eyesight.

TBH I never expected the perps to be black. It will quite interesting to unpack their motives and put it into some historical perspective regarding purposeful, inadvertent or ignorant destruction by European colonial invaders in, uh… everywhere else in the world.

ZeroCool, (edited )

TBH I never expected the perps to be black. It will quite interesting to unpack their motives and put it into some historical perspective regarding purposeful, inadvertent or ignorant destruction by European colonial invaders in, uh… everywhere else in the world.

Wanna know how I know you only glanced at the picture?

maculata,

My little phone didn’t have the pixels to show the picture properly.

I’ve owned up to my mistake above.

And yes now that I look closer I can see their hands. Oops.

Observer1199,

Good on you for owning the mistake. I will say that even if they were black the premise of your original argument provides no justification for what was done.

maculata,

And you shall know me by the trail of monuments to my own incompetence that I leave in my wake…

Now as to my ‘argument’; it wasn’t a justification, it was more a point of relativism and curiosity.

Varyk, in Planting a small forest in 24 hours (1440 trees) | Beau Miles

Absolutely love it. I like a lot of his videos every time I stumble across once.

Cool guy and very inspiring.

Treevan, in As the climate changes, cities scramble to find trees that will survive
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I wonder when the point will be that indigenous plants will no longer be the only thing recommended for planting. My lifetime, the next? The article writes like we are already there but I’m not seeing it yet.

Endemic planting is akin to climate change denial perhaps. Here in the “natural area restoration” field, most are recreating pre-colonial consortiums, you know, 250 years ago for us, before climate change was a twinkle in humanity’s eye.

Excellent thought-provoking article. Cheers.

LibertyLizard,
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In urban forestry I would say it’s almost the opposite—there is an implicit assumption that introduced plants will do better among many arborists and others that goes beyond the evidence in my view. Basically all native plants are written off as infeasible for urban areas, yet species from Northern Europe, eastern North America, and east Asia are planted unquestioningly, despite big differences between our climate and those areas.

Among the public there is a stronger pro-native sentiment, but then in my experience many people don’t even know what the word means, they’ve just osmosed that it’s something good.

In my view there are many native species that will do well into the future—particularly when planted at the northern edge of a plant’s range. But the truth is, there are no guarantees, and you need to evaluate the tolerance of each species on a case by case basis. Right now I’m very interested in taking a more bioregional view of what it means to be native—it’s clear that northern and mountain natives will not thrive in our area going forward, but species from the broader Southwest region that occupy similar soils and moisture regimes but experience hotter temperatures may be solid for both biodiversity conservation and climate adaptation. Further research is needed to quantify the pros and cons of this topic.

Treevan,
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Particularly when native is different from indigenous/endemic. It’s a confusing topic with native tending to mean every national plant without acknowledging native in relation to endemic is the same as exotic and non-exotic. There are plenty of “native invasive weeds” that we need to deal with on a daily basis. We’ve talked about provenancing before, an endemic plant from another range is “exotic” to that area it evolved in but genetically is similar but diverse enough to count in the “pub test” (layperson understanding of plants).

Exotic plants in the urban landscape exist because while an urban landscape is alien; from the soil, to the hydrology, to the wind, to the reflective heat, to the pollution, removing endemic pest/disease pressures gives them a leg up on native plants which means they tend to do better (initially and at the cost of other things). That’s 1800’s to 1980’s urban planning, then we switched to natives, then endemics, and now climate change is like “get fucked”. Back to the drawing board. You’re right, intense study needed.

Spitzspot, in As the climate changes, cities scramble to find trees that will survive
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baritone_edge, in ‘We need more shade’: US’s hottest city turns to trees to cool those most in need

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  • LibertyLizard,
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    For sure, but I am interested to see how effective it is specifically in Phoenix which is probably one of the most hostile inhabited climates for trees. If they can make it work there, it can work anywhere. And it could provide information about which species can survive future climates in other areas as well, especially in the American southwest.

    slazer2au, (edited ) in Maple syrup from New Jersey: You got a problem with that?

    The general rule of thumb is that it takes about 40 gallons (150 liters) of sap from sugar maples of the Vermont variety to make one gallon (3.8 liters) of syrup, Hegarty said. For red maples, you need at least 60 gallons (more than 225 liters) of sap because more water needs to be removed in the process of making syrup.

    Holy crap, I knew syrup farming was inefficient but dam getting less than 4 litres out of 150 litres is insane.

    edit followup thought: i suppose it is better to have the forrest than another industrial complex.

    JacobCoffinWrites,
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    Yeah, some big operations use an osmosis rig to remove some of the water before boiling to save fuel, but most of the time you just spend a few days tending the fire and sap (don’t want it to burn).

    xor,

    well it’s concentrated but not inefficient really…
    you don’t need to use that much…
    the average canadian only uses 1 gallon of maple syrup a week…

    Buddahriffic,

    The average Canadian doesn’t use a gallon of anything. We go through liters of maple syrup, not gallons.

    And it increases if it’s a waffle week, since you gotta fill all those little holes.

    LibertyLizard,
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    Yeah sugar bushing is one of the few forms of agriculture that exists in North America that relies on largely intact ecosystems rather than heavily modified or diminished ones. But it is certainly not the most efficient way to produce food, and that’s why maple syrup is so pricey.

    casmael, in Continued logging of NSW koala habitat is ‘a profound tragedy’, conservationist says

    Wow people are fucking retarded man

    NJSpradlin, in Cities Are Good at Planting Trees. They’re Not So Good at Keeping Them | The Walrus

    Atlanta, GA, the city of trees, cut down 4-6 mature (1’ thick) trees on a side walk with near construction in midtown… just so they could put scaffolding over the side walk for the construction. WTF didn’t they just put debris scaffolding higher or better debris fencing/netting? 🤦‍♂️

    jol, in Cities Are Good at Planting Trees. They’re Not So Good at Keeping Them | The Walrus

    City trees are much more expensive than rural trees to maintain. Orders of magnitude more so.

    intensely_human,

    Then they should plant rural trees

    LibertyLizard,
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    Well rural trees are typically extremely low cost to maintain. I’m not sure I understand the relevance of this comment.

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