GoodKingElliot,
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Bloody Red Tories.

andthenthreemore,
@andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

They’re getting ready for the Tories to play really dirty I reckon.

TeddyKila,
frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

I actually think the caution is a good thing, overall. Look what happened to Theresa May’s poll lead in 2017! Absolutely terrifying prospect that could happen to Labour.

Having said that… dropping the £28bn pledge is too cautious. May got sunk by incautiously launching a new policy during the campaign. Labour’s green industrial pledge clearly isn’t damaging them in the polls, so why water it down? I don’t think it could damage them. People know Labour will spend money and we want them to do it!

kralk,

Funny you should pick 2017 since the thing that killed May’s majority was a radical leftwing manifesto!

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

Interesting take, huge if true!

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

And Labour were offering a radical left-wing manifesto at the same time…

Tweak,

In addition, despite Keir Starmer’s previous promises to abolish the Lords in a first term, it is expected to commit only to limited changes. This is likely to mean legislating only for the abolition of the remaining 91 hereditary peers.

Aren’t the hereditary peers usually the ones speaking out against bad policy from the Commons? The remaining peers are the like that Boris and others installed.

fifisaac,

What policies does he actually have now? And when will he scrap those too?

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

Planning reform, improved workers’ rights, closing various tax loopholes. Also, he’s still going to invest in the green thing, just not necessarily spend £28bn on it.

As to when he’s going to drop them, I guess it depends what Streeting and Reeves get a bee in their bonnet about next, as they seem to be calling the shots.

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

he’s still going to invest in the green thing

You mean the one a senior Labour MP recently said was going to be scrapped?

As to when he’s going to drop them, I guess it depends what Streeting and Reeves get a bee in their bonnet about next, as they seem to be calling the shots.

Am I sensing cracks in your Keir-Labour romance?

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

You mean the one a senior Labour MP recently said was going to be scrapped?

No one said it was going to be scrapped. As usual, your understanding of what’s going on goes as deep as the headline. I suggest reading the rest of the article, in future.

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar
Hestia,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar

“Bombproof?” Maybe we should… test that out…

ry_,

It’s pretty wild to me that such a modest investment is deemed risky with the electorate.

That said, it’s clear the sun, the mail, the express, the telegraph will be looking for the tiniest arguable removed in Labour’s armour. So to my mind, this is more telling of embarrassingly low horizon of national ambitions coupled with a very aggressively right wind media. So, I can also understand the need to appear very very fiscally restrained.

ry_,

Ah I’m new to lemmy. Seems I got censored for using a word which means a weakness or gap in armour, but I guess in the right context could be a racial slur lol

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

FYI, that’s an instance specific thing.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

The media’s deliberate economic illiteracy is actively damaging the country at this point!

Mrkawfee,

Starmer is a coward and a dud.

echo64,

If you can’t defeat this unless bucket of tory rejects that were never supposed to advance further than the back bench with policy, and have to build a “bulletproof” manifesto. Then you’ve no hope.

PatMustard,

Did you say the same last election? I’d rather the other parties take things as seriously as possible rather than being complacent.

frazorth,

Unfortunately that’s the general environment with the news, and I don’t want to see another round of billboards saying “Labour want to murder your babies, kill your military, and shut down your hospitals” when talking about a modest proposal.

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

Continuation Tories

jabjoe,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

That’s the line Conservatives push to liberals to try and get them to not vote at all. While at the same time calling Labour dangerous radicals to rich old white people.

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

It’s also the truth. The first part.

jabjoe,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

Republicans in the US are doing the same with liberals in the US. The US liberals are fooling for it too.

Fudoshin,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

Couldn’t give a rats arse about US Republicans.

jabjoe,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

I’d like to not, but what happens in the US affects all of us.

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