[Sway] Distrohopping go brrrr!

communism, 1 month ago

Looks really nice. I think I’d use Void if not for the AUR.

hellfire103, 1 month ago

Yeah, I actually do wish that Void had some way of adding third-party repos. XBPS supports it, but none exist.

Also, many third-party srcpkgs do not compile well on musl, and AppImages aren’t supported yet. I think I might reinstall with glibc until musl is a little more developed.

communism, 1 month ago

That’s a shame about musl, musl sounds cool.

I wonder if you have thoughts on Artix? I’m going to do an Artix install soon, I like the sound of it as it’s systemd-free (you can use runit with it like Void) but still lets you use the AUR. If not for that I think I’d go with Void instead though, I hear fewer people complaining about things not working with Void so it sounds to me like Void might be more stable than Artix.

hellfire103, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

I used to use Artix, a long time ago. It’s nice, but I preferred vanilla Arch. There’s not really much else I can say.

In terms of init systems, I like the following for different reasons:

• OpenRC - It just works and the commands make sense
• S6 - It’s really bloody fast
• runit - It’s simple

I don’t personally have a problem with systemd, either, but I understand why many people don’t like it.

marcdw, 1 month ago

Got Void running on an old laptop about a year ago. Very nice. The fact that it is not based on any of the others also made it appealing.

original_reader, 1 month ago

What sets Void apart?

hellfire103, 1 month ago

• Uses runit instead of systemd
• Uses LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL
• Optionally uses musl libc instead of glibc
• Uses the XBPS package manager
• Void is similar to BSD, in many respects
• It’s very minimal, and that makes it flexible
• It’s very lightweight. Until I installed a WM and started a bunch of daemons, my RAM usage was not only in the megabytes, but also only double digits.
• It has XBPS-SRC, which is comparable to Portage and FreeBSD Ports.
• Most of the documentation is on Reddit and in blog posts, as Void Docs is quite basic and the wiki is no-longer updated. Some may consider this a good thing, others will disagree.

mac, 1 month ago

Looks good, Void is the first distro I installed that made me want to stop distro hopping.

AVincentInSpace, 1 month ago

Void MUSL, huh?

Here’s hoping you have better luck than I did.

mac, 1 month ago

I’ve not really had many issues with it, I have a minimal amount of software to install and use though which I think Void is a great fit for.

hellfire103, 1 month ago

Flatpak Nix solved most of the issues I had the last time I tried musl. It’s working fine as of today!

EDIT: Flatpak refuses to work with xdg-desktop-portal when dbus is running, so now I’m using the Nix package manager. Void+Nix is a match made in heaven!

gun, 1 month ago

New to linux. I tried this same thing in a virtual machine. I got a lot of stuff to work, but it seems like any services and daemons have to be installed on xbps because the ones from nix can’t be enabled for Runit, or at least require doing that in a different way. So I would install those services through XBPS and everything else with Nix-Env which was enough to get a WM up, but I kept running into issues installing other things.

Now I’m running Void directly on my computer and I’m sticking to XBPS and so far it has gone a lot smoother, but I’ve heard about this Void + Nix thing a lot, but never really seen mentioned what the recommended approach to that is

hellfire103, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

I’m not sure what the general consensus is, but I’ve been using XBPS for everything, and then nix-env for anything not available on the default repos or in srcpkgs. On my system, it’s essentially just a replacement for Flatpak and AppImage, as I’ve had trouble running Flatpaks on Sway, and AppImages aren’t yet supported on musl libc.

gun, 1 month ago

Ok, that’s sort of what I figured. I’ll probably do that going forward. Thanks